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Re: All Jordan FG's With Kobe Defending
Originally Posted by 3ball
which SG's from today's game are better defenders than any of the guys from 1996 that i just listed?
Klay is probably the only one who could hang defensively with those guys you have listed, and that's about it.
Right now is BY FAR the weakest era of shooting guards. Offensively, and especially on defense.
SF is super legit however. With great defenders like Butler, Leonard and Paul George. And then true superstars like LeBron, Durant, and Melo.
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Re: All Jordan FG's With Kobe Defending
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Klay is probably the only one who could hang defensively with those guys you have listed, and that's about it.
Right now is BY FAR the weakest era of shooting guards. Offensively, and especially on defense.
SF is super legit however. With great defenders like Butler, Leonard and Paul George. And then true superstars like LeBron, Durant, and Melo.
Butler and Leonard are great defenders... that's just two though.. easily matched by any other year or era.
Ditto on the superstars - every era has 2-3 superstars at the SF spot... the 90's is far deeper at the SF spot, and the 80's is actually the golden age of SF's (a rarely discussed fact)...
80's of course ruled the big men too - the 80's was the golden era for frontcourts period.
Btw, people keep mentioning Paul George in these discussions to help today's era keep up - but he's hurt now, and won't come back the same - it happens - Reggie Lewis and Richard Dumas were the same type of rising star before their careers were cut short.
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Re: All Jordan FG's With Kobe Defending
That was entertaining lol kucoc chucking. Lol kobe choked on those free throws.
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Re: All Jordan FG's With Kobe Defending
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Klay is probably the only one who could hang defensively with those guys you have listed, and that's about it.
Right now is BY FAR the weakest era of shooting guards. Offensively, and especially on defense.
SF is super legit however. With great defenders like Butler, Leonard and Paul George. And then true superstars like LeBron, Durant, and Melo.
Off the top of my head Tony Allen, Afflalo, George, Thabo, Butler,Ariza, Iggy, that's for right now and if we are going by 2000-2015 the list would get much longer.
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Re: All Jordan FG's With Kobe Defending
Does the term "Kobe Stopper" mean anything to you guys and gals? Kobe popularized the defensive specialist in the league. Guys who were designed to only stop him during the 3peat era. They knew Shaq was going to get his but how are they going to stop Kobe. Enters the defensive specialists, who play SF too. Diaws, Bowens, Battiers of world who's only sole purpose is to defend. They spend all their energy to this specific task.
There were no defensive specialists in Jordan's era and there are very few of them today compared to the previous era.
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Re: All Jordan FG's With Kobe Defending
Originally Posted by G0ATbe
And it's obvoius that Kobe would guard Jordan routinely while MJ was too afraid to guard Kobe for even a moment. (see 55 point game)
Every bucket i posted of MJ on Kobe was from 1996-1998 - i actually didn't include his Wizards years to save space.. Kobe's only scored on Jordan 4 times ever, including his Wizards years.
Kobe struggled with Doug Christie, Anthony Peeler, Shawn Marion, many more - all guys that Jordan dropped 40 on with ease.
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Re: All Jordan FG's With Kobe Defending
Originally Posted by 9erempiree
Does the term "Kobe Stopper" mean anything to you guys and gals? Kobe popularized the defensive specialist in the league. Guys who were designed to only stop him during the 3peat era.
It means that one guy could stop Kobe and limit his efficiency - it didn't take an entire team... that's what the Jordan Rules were for.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2v0LOhjsJs
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Re: All Jordan FG's With Kobe Defending
"soonner or later, everyone gets compared to Wilt"
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Re: All Jordan FG's With Kobe Defending
Way more 2-way players in previous eras...
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Re: All Jordan FG's With Kobe Defending
Originally Posted by GimmeThat
"soonner or later, everyone gets compared to Wilt"
i can't argue with that
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Re: All Jordan FG's With Kobe Defending
Originally Posted by dunksby
Off the top of my head Tony Allen, Afflalo, George, Thabo, Butler,Ariza, Iggy, that's for right now and if we are going by 2000-2015 the list would get much longer.
Tony Allen = Bobby Phills
Aaron Afllalo = Doug Christie, Nate McMillan
Paul George = Scottie Pippen, Gary Payton
Thabo = Shandon Anderson, George Lynch, Derrick McKey
Jimmy Butler = Eddie Jones
Trevor Ariza = Michael Finley
Iggy = Rodman
All the guys on the right are from 1996-1998.. 2nd 3-peat only... I like 96'-98' a lot better - the quality was so much higher, i feel bad even comparing them all... i mean, can we really even compare Thabo to two-way player and super-athlete Derrick McKey?... it's not even close.
I didn't include many two-way players from 1996 like Jordan, Penny, Grant Hill, Sprewell, Drexler, Mitch Richmond... there were FAR more two-way players in previous eras.
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Last edited by 3ball; 01-15-2015 at 01:10 PM.
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