Will you label Lebron the GOAT after he wins a ring for Cleveland?

[sportjames23]

I always took you for a pretty serious poster, but this shit is trolling.

Did Jordan win with an understrength team? Nope.
Did he win 6-7 MVPs? Nope.
Did Jordan win with a team like Duncan's? Nope.

So how is Jordan the GOAT for achieving none of that?

I don't know who's the bigger unhinged hater between you and Roundball_Rock.

[Dragic4Life]

10-11 years in the league and he hasn't hit his peak yet? Are you serious?

Yes Lebron deliberately time it so that he'll peak in Cleveland with Love, Kyrie and Bennett.

[guy]

Yet MJ stans daily claim LeBron "must" win some convenient number of rings (usually 7 is the chosen number, because as we all know the record for rings won is 6)?

No one reasonable actually thinks that. Most people think he should get to that given that he has good amount teams. There are extreme positions on both sides. Some people set the bar too high and think he should get there regardless of the teams around him. This argument thats applied to him and great players in general is ridiculous. At the same time though, other people too often act like alot of great players don't get the chance to actually rack up that many titles due to the situation, despite the fact that most great players do get to play on a great team for an extended period at some point of their career. (For example: someone like Barkley is sometimes given the excuse that he didn't have enough help, even though he played multiple years on contending teams in each of Philly, Phoenix, and Houston.) Its very rare a great player plays under a GM that is THAT incompetent for that long. They also too often understate how instrumental great players can be in making their situation better (helping their teammates get better, getting on the same page with the coach, etc).

Jordan had something like 7-8 years on contending teams capable of winning a title and he won 6. Lebron has already had 4-5 years on contending teams capable of winning a title and he won 2, and its highly doubtful he won't get another 2-4 years on contending teams at this point of this career (by the way, lets not act like Lebron shouldn't already have more given 2011). So most people assume that he will get that, so to say he should get many more titles isn't an unreasonable expectation.

Either way, regardless of resume/titles, its never too soon to say a player is the GOAT based on peak/prime play like what people were saying about Jordan when he retired, and players like Bird and Wilt before him. This treatment probably won't happen for Lebron anytime soon though just cause of how bad 2011 was.