Lebron's contract and no Love for Wiggins

[Pointguard]

Lebron's lack of acknowledgement of Wiggins in the essay can lead to a messy situation. Lebron isn't a long term contract player (2 year contract with a one year out clause - mostly due to not knowing when the TV contract will be signed - or at least that is what we are told) and shouldn't have much say in the long term investment of the team. Wiggins has the potential to be the best player in the league. Something Love will never approach. Cleveland would be mortgaging the future for Love. Which is fine for us to do, but Cleveland did this once before.

Lebron left Cleveland for a Wiggins type of player., sobeit, proven He thought he was getting a rebounder with his Ex. But Bosh didn't pan out. And Lebron had to lead the team in rebounding the last three years. And whatever you miss in your last relationship, you tend to over exaggerate the need in your next relationship. While I think Love would still be a great shooter and rebounder out East, it isn't a guarantee. The convoluted style out East will mean he has to be to be a good rebounder in traffic. Which is a little bit different.

You can get a rebounder (rarely at the level of K Love but you can get an adequate one) and you can get shooting. Its rare that you can ever get a player who could be the best in the league. If Wiggins gets shipped out, Lebron will forever be linked with team personnel in a way he perhaps shouldn't be. You embrace everybody on your new team, show your Love for the future. Lebron came to a chosen situation. Lebron was vilified for choosing teammates. He should really bury anything that looks like he up to it again.

[DMAVS41]

How is it mortgaging the future when if you make the trade...you will be contenders for at least the next 8 years unless there are health concerns.

Love is 25. Irving is 21. Bennet is 20. Delladova is 23. Waiters is 22. Lebron is 29.

If the Cavs are smart and they get back Dieng...Dieng is 24.

Mortgaging the future? What?

And if they trade Wiggins/Thompson...they'll retain the Miami and Grizzlies pick if they are smart.

So they'd have some nice picks that can be used on their own in the draft or trade for pieces.

[Foster5k]

Wiggins has the potential to be the best player in the league.

I think you're reaching here. Wiggins has yet to play a single game in the NBA and really hasn't shown "best player in the league" type of potential in the summer league.

Kevin Love gives the Cavs the best chance to win NOW! All Cleveland wants is one championship. That's it. They don't care about the future. If LeBron brings them just one title, his legacy will take a huge leap forward. Not only in the eyes of the citizens of Cleveland, but in the eyes of of millions around the world.

LeBron, Dan Gilbert, the city of Cleveland are ready for their championship right now. Not 4-5 years down the road. Also, who knows what could happen by then.

[navy]

Wiggins is never going to be the best player in the league.

[tmacattack33]

Wiggins could possibly be the best player in the league eventually.

He could also turn out to be Andre Igoudala or Shawn Marion level.


Do it. Do the damn trade.

[Straight_Ballin]

If Bron signed a longer deal, then yes, you can trade wiggins. Since he didn't, he should accept the fact that the Cavs don't want to trade wiggins. no commitment = Cavs looking out for their future by keeping wiggins. Nothing more to it.

[r15mohd]

Lebron's lack of acknowledgement of Wiggins in the essay can lead to a messy situation. Lebron isn't a long term contract player (2 year contract with a one year out clause - mostly due to not knowing when the TV contract will be signed - or at least that is what we are told) and shouldn't have much say in the long term investment of the team. Wiggins has the potential to be the best player in the league. Something Love will never approach. Cleveland would be mortgaging the future for Love. Which is fine for us to do, but Cleveland did this once before.

Lebron left Cleveland for a Wiggins type of player., sobeit, proven He thought he was getting a rebounder with his Ex. But Bosh didn't pan out. And Lebron had to lead the team in rebounding the last three years. And whatever you miss in your last relationship, you tend to over exaggerate the need in your next relationship. While I think Love would still be a great shooter and rebounder out East, it isn't a guarantee. The convoluted style out East will mean he has to be to be a good rebounder in traffic. Which is a little bit different.

You can get a rebounder (rarely at the level of K Love but you can get an adequate one) and you can get shooting. Its rare that you can ever get a player who could be the best in the league. If Wiggins gets shipped out, Lebron will forever be linked with team personnel in a way he perhaps shouldn't be. You embrace everybody on your new team, show your Love for the future. Lebron came to a chosen situation. Lebron was vilified for choosing teammates. He should really bury anything that looks like he up to it again.

Cleveland is far from a "chosen situation"...they've proven nothing without Lebron, and Wiggins has proven very little against rookies and sophomores alike.

Lebron wants to win now, and if the Cavs/Gilbert has learned anything from their last stint with Lebron...they BETTER sign a fitting 2nd option than to let it rest on a hope and prayer that Wiggins' pans out. If they don't expect Lebron to consider seeking another home next summer, once again.

[DMAVS41]

If Bron signed a longer deal, then yes, you can trade wiggins. Since he didn't, he should accept the fact that the Cavs don't want to trade wiggins. no commitment = Cavs looking out for their future by keeping wiggins. Nothing more to it.

Not even Lebron would leave the Cavs now.

That isn't a real worry.

Lebron just wants to get the max possible salary when the TV deal is factored in.

And potentially the next CBA will include a provision about 1 player on a team getting paid an amount that only half counts on the cap or something so these stars can make even more...with it capped at 50 million or something.

He's not leaving the Cavs again...

[Straight_Ballin]

Cleveland is far from a "chosen situation"...they've proven nothing without Lebron, and Wiggins has proven very little against rookies and sophomores alike.

Lebron wants to win now, and if the Cavs/Gilbert has learned anything from their last stint with Lebron...they BETTER sign a fitting 2nd option than to let it rest on a hope and prayer that Wiggins' pans out. If they don't expect Lebron to consider seeking another home next summer, once again.

Then Bron looks like an idiot for not being patient, again. Cavs never promised Lebron a squad that would be an immediate winner. He needs
to put in work with wiggins, and then form the dynasty, not a one hit wonder.

[navy]

Then Bron looks like an idiot for not being patient, again. Cavs never promised Lebron a squad that would be an immediate winner. He needs
to put in work with wiggins, and then form the dynasty, not a one hit wonder.

A dynasty?

Wiggins is no where close to any of the players that have dynasties.

Kevin Durant has been in the league for 8 years and he has no rings. The Thunder are closer to a dynasty than the Cavs will ever be. Better players and better draft future potential. I can tell you one thing. They wont ever be a dynasty.

[Straight_Ballin]

A dynasty?



Wiggins is no where close to any of the players that have dynasties.

I'm talking 3-4 years. Wtf is love going to give you, a trip to the ECF? Anyone who thinks the Cavs are winning it all with a new team this year (love or not) needs a reality check.

[PleezeBelieve]

@ you dudes still hyping this Wiggins dude.

You people just don't stop. Stop hyping him and let him prove SOMETHING on the court.

[Dragic4Life]

@ you dudes still hyping this Wiggins dude.

You people just don't stop. Stop hyping him and let him prove SOMETHING on the court.

this.

[navy]

I'm talking 3-4 years. Wtf is love going to give you, a trip to the ECF? Anyone who thinks the Cavs are winning it all with a new team this year (love or not) needs a reality check.

In 3-4 years you have no idea how good Lebron will still be. We dont even know if Wiggins will be a superstar. He may very well end up a gerald green or an andre iggy.

In which case you wasted 4 years of Lebron's prime babysitting and then another 8 years losing in the playoffs.

[FireMcFailPlease]

A dynasty?

Wiggins is no where close to any of the players that have dynasties.

Kevin Durant has been in the league for 8 years and he has no rings. The Thunder are closer to a dynasty than the Cavs will ever be. Better players and better draft future potential. I can tell you one thing. They wont ever be a dynasty.

Its unreal how some of these ishiots can even function getting out of bed.