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Old 09-29-2012, 11:44 AM   #31
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Default Re: BREAKING NEWS: Rasheed Wallace agrees to sign with Knicks

Sheed trying to secure his record of most technical fouls.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:52 AM   #32
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as it should novak is garbage outside of 3 pt shooting

Yes, outside of making every open shot he ever takes......he's not that good. Actually his defense is perfectly fine.......

His +/- last year was very good. That's the type of garbage I like......
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:49 PM   #33
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Alot of simpletons on this board who dont realize what teams are supposed to do when theyre in win now mode.

Getting young talent is great but lets be real here, when your goal is to get as far as possible in the playoffs you dot have time to babysit and mentor potential based young kids.

Who would you rather have running your team in the 4th quarter: 39 year old hall of famer Jason Kidd or 23 year old bust Jonny Flynn???

And ill enjoy 38 year old Rasheed shutting down bonehead neophytes like Andray Blatche
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:02 PM   #34
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Although I hate the Wallace signing for many reasons.....you do realize that all their "old" players are backups, right?

Yeah, backups who won't do anything! So what's the point? Might as well sign Oakley too or Ewing since they can also be backups (who won't do anything).
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:03 PM   #35
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Alot of simpletons on this board who dont realize what teams are supposed to do when theyre in win now mode.

Getting young talent is great but lets be real here, when your goal is to get as far as possible in the playoffs you dot have time to babysit and mentor potential based young kids.

Who would you rather have running your team in the 4th quarter: 39 year old hall of famer Jason Kidd or 23 year old bust Jonny Flynn???

And ill enjoy 38 year old Rasheed shutting down bonehead neophytes like Andray Blatche
Win what "now?" NY isn't even the best team in their division, much less conference.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:05 PM   #36
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Alot of simpletons on this board who dont realize what teams are supposed to do when theyre in win now mode.

Getting young talent is great but lets be real here, when your goal is to get as far as possible in the playoffs you dot have time to babysit and mentor potential based young kids.

Who would you rather have running your team in the 4th quarter: 39 year old hall of famer Jason Kidd or 23 year old bust Jonny Flynn???

And ill enjoy 38 year old Rasheed shutting down bonehead neophytes like Andray Blatche

Errr I don't know about all this. Win now doesn't mean getting the oldest vets available. I mean I like the Camby pick up, Kidd is questionable but still good. But the Rasheed Wallace pickup is about 5 years too late. He hasn't been in the league for the past two years and his work ethic was never the best to begin with. What do the Knicks really expect?
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:12 PM   #37
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Yeah, backups who won't do anything! So what's the point? .

I think Rasheed Wallace might be done. And not sure about Kurt Thomas, who is just hanging on at this point. But you think Camby, Kidd, JR Smith, Novak, and eventually Shumpert/Brewer (whichever goes to bench), can't "do anything" off the bench? Really?

Take off the "I hate everything Knicks" glasses.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:26 PM   #38
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Errr I don't know about all this. Win now doesn't mean getting the oldest vets available. I mean I like the Camby pick up, Kidd is questionable but still good. But the Rasheed Wallace pickup is about 5 years too late. He hasn't been in the league for the past two years and his work ethic was never the best to begin with. What do the Knicks really expect?

Im in complete agreement with everyone that the Knicks championship expectations are overreaching, we probably have a 5% chance. The roster is flawed big time and Amares loss of athleticism is mainly responsible. In fact at this point id probably move Amare for Carlos Boozer even.

I digress, although we probably wont win a title we are locked into immovable contracts through 2016 so we might as well go all in and hope for some misfortune on the part of our rivals to maybe increase our chances.

Also, the free agent barrel is near barren so what other options did we really have? We picked from what was available for the minimum. We needed a backup for Amare anyway and Wallace was always a top level post defender, could mix it up in the high or low post and create his own shot. That to me is better than Kenyon Martin whos production has rapidly declined an has no offensive game to speak of
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Old 09-29-2012, 02:22 PM   #39
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Im in complete agreement with everyone that the Knicks championship expectations are overreaching, we probably have a 5% chance. The roster is flawed big time and Amares loss of athleticism is mainly responsible. In fact at this point id probably move Amare for Carlos Boozer even.

I digress, although we probably wont win a title we are locked into immovable contracts through 2016 so we might as well go all in and hope for some misfortune on the part of our rivals to maybe increase our chances.

Also, the free agent barrel is near barren so what other options did we really have? We picked from what was available for the minimum. We needed a backup for Amare anyway and Wallace was always a top level post defender, could mix it up in the high or low post and create his own shot. That to me is better than Kenyon Martin whos production has rapidly declined an has no offensive game to speak of

I wouldn't wish that fate on no fan. The Knicks have had a great offseason and I agree to a certain extent that they won't win a championship. Their roster is so hard to peg down really, their ceiling is a championship if Melo and Amare play out of their minds and the role players step up, but again there's a weird mesh of skill sets and players. I'm just in the opinion that Wallace is done, why not give that roster spot to another young guy to develop or someone who you know at min still has gas left in the tank.
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Old 09-29-2012, 03:19 PM   #40
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last season

we started off as

douglas
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amare
tyson

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bibby
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walker
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this season

felton
brewer
melo
amare
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kidd
shumpert
JR
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i expect good things and a huge improvement now with extended veteran help



Brewer and Felton could honestly be the worst starting back court in the league
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Old 09-29-2012, 03:27 PM   #42
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wallace to attend training camp

Maybe he's matured a bit and can provide some leadership on and off the court.
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Old 09-29-2012, 03:39 PM   #43
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Brewer and Felton could honestly be the worst starting back court in the league

Kidd, Shumpert and JR could honestly be the best backcourt off the bench in the league.
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Kidd, Shumpert and JR could honestly be the best backcourt off the bench in the league.

Knicks should start Shumpert when he gets back.
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Kidd, Shumpert and JR could honestly be the best backcourt off the bench in the league.
Or they could be an over-the-hill star, a guy recovering from an ACL tear and a brainless chuck.
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