Put a Prime Thurmond, Walton, Moses, McAdoo, and Gilmore in Today's NBA...

[Helix]

kd is 25 and i would still take him over prime mcadoo 10 out of 10 times and any unbiased poster would do the same.

Go ahead.......take Durant. I'll take McAdoo.

And 10 out of 10 times? That wouldn't be the case with unbiased, KNOWLEDGEABLE posters.

[Suguru101]

Bill Walton would be the best player in the league. I am not even kidding about this.

Take Joakim Noah, make him 7'2, make him stronger, give him better court vision and make him a better passer, make him a 16-18 rebounds per game kind of guy, make him better defensively, and then make him a 19-24 points per game center... who could score more if his team focused the offense on him scoring instead of him passing.

Best player in the league.

[LAZERUSS]

The **** is wrong with you? Just because the league average was 45.7%, you think Durant would suddenly forget to shoot?

He would be facing different defenses, in a different era, and in a league in which there was no 3pt shot.

No, he wouldn't have come close to the player he is now...

[dr.hee]

The **** is wrong with you? Just because the league average was 45.7%, you think Durant would suddenly forget to shoot?

Yes, absolutely. Let's say I'm shooting 50% in a league where my competition is only shooting 40% on average. My god, can you imagine how good I'd shoot if my opponents could shoot better? Hell, I would shoot about 60% and might even kill a mountain lion or two.

[LAZERUSS]

Howard would be a top 10 player of alltime if he played in the 60's. No lie.

I doubt it...he probably wouldn't have even been a Top-10 center in the early 70's...

[Railgun]

Go ahead.......take Durant. I'll take McAdoo.

And 10 out of 10 times? That wouldn't be the case with unbiased, KNOWLEDGEABLE posters.

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[SHAQisGOAT]

Only Lebron and Durant could rival prime Moses for best in the game, nowadays. At his peak he was simply great, just a beast, no bigman today could even dream of competing with him, he'd be killing these centers especially, snatching some MVPs along the way. Think of something like a bigger and even more physical Kevin Love on the boards, a relentless center that would go inside and bang with anyone, with some great finishing skills and good touch down-low, something like a taller and more athletic Zach Randolph, a center that would draw many fouls and hit his FT's at a good %, also with a nice post-game and taking/making some jumpers, even, as well. Also pretty good on defense, at his best, could be a blackhole on offense many times though, but he was very impactful leading his teams.

Right now, only Durant can be argued as a better scorer than peak McAdoo. Big Mac is really underrated/overlooked these days, he was a great player, just go watch that man play, he had a great prime that even came in his first years and didn't last long because of injuries, such a shame. Think of him as sort of a mixture between KD, Dirk and Garnett. He could really shoot the rock, had plenty of range, one of the GOAT at making contested jumpers, very athletic, great in transition, could handle the ball and attack the rim, good post-game, could reach 80% from the FT line, great rebounder, smart and good defensively.
In his younger/best days he had to play at center because of his teams needs - causing great mismatches but also getting "abused" by taller/bigger centers - but he was more of a PF or even SF, call him a stretch 4 on offense.
Certainly top3 in the game, best big, and would be a very top threat for MVP every time, right now at his best. He only had like 3 seasons at that level, at his best level, because of constant injuries, though.

Gilmore was really tall, scary strong, plus pretty skilled on various areas, great player/talent but he was many times called lazy, or better yet not agressive enough, and said to not live up to his full potential or just "relaxing" too much on the court. Still, considering the centers of today, he would definitely be the best center in the game. Dude would most likely be leading the league in FG% while scoring more than 20, grabbing plenty of boards, playing some pretty good D with his shot-blocking, and he could also pass the rock.

Thurmond would be the best defensive player in the game most likely.. Arguably the GOAT m2m post-defender as he really "locked, more than a couple of times, centers like Wilt, Kareem or Reed, in a way that nobody quite did or could do; he wasn't on a level of a Russell or even a Wilt, and so on, as a paint protector and as a help/team defender but he was a great shot-blocker as well, and monster rebounder. Dude would be winning DPOYs, no doubt. He was also more than solid on the offensive end, so he would probably be the best center in the game, at his very best.

[Rose'sACL]

Oh really? A Durant who is playing in an NBA that shoots an eFG% of 50% and averages 100 ppg...over a McAdoo who averaged 35 ppg in an NBA that shot .457 and averaged 103 ppg? And a McAdoo that was also among the league leaders in rebounding?

why not? today's players take a lot more 3s which eFG% a lot higher plus the fact that durant himself takes a lot of 3s. he scores more than 7 points per game through 3s that makes his eFG% a lot better.

[LAZERUSS]

Only Lebron and Durant could rival prime Moses for best in the game, nowadays. At his peak he was simply great, just a beast, no bigman today could even dream of competing with him, he'd be killing these centers especially, snatching some MVPs along the way. Think of something like a bigger and even more physical Kevin Love on the boards, a relentless center that would go inside and bang with anyone, with some great finishing skills and good touch down-low, something like a taller and more athletic Zach Randolph, a center that would draw many fouls and hit his FT's at a good %, also with a nice post-game and taking/making some jumpers, even, as well. Also pretty good on defense, at his best, could be a blackhole on offense many times though, but he was very impactful leading his teams.

Right now, only Durant can be argued as a better scorer than peak McAdoo. Big Mac is really underrated/overlooked these days, he was a great player, just go watch that man play, he had a great prime that even came in his first years and didn't last long because of injuries, such a shame. Think of him as sort of a mixture between KD, Dirk and Garnett. He could really shoot the rock, had plenty of range, one of the GOAT at making contested jumpers, very athletic, great in transition, could handle the ball and attack the rim, good post-game, could reach 80% from the FT line, great rebounder, smart and good defensively.
In his younger/best days he had to play at center because of his teams needs - causing great mismatches but also getting "abused" by taller/bigger centers - but he was more of a PF or even SF, call him a stretch 4 on offense.
Certainly top3 in the game, best big, and would be a very top threat for MVP every time, right now at his best. He only had like 3 seasons at that level, at his best level, because of constant injuries, though.

Gilmore was really tall, scary strong, plus pretty skilled on various areas, great player/talent but he was many times called lazy, or better yet not agressive enough, and said to not live up to his full potential or just "relaxing" too much on the court. Still, considering the centers of today, he would definitely be the best center in the game. Dude would most likely be leading the league in FG% while scoring more than 20, grabbing plenty of boards, playing some pretty good D with his shot-blocking, and he could also pass the rock.

Thurmond would be the best defensive player in the game most likely.. Arguably the GOAT m2m post-defender as he really "locked, more than a couple of times, centers like Wilt, Kareem or Reed, in a way that nobody quite did or could do; he wasn't on a level of a Russell or even a Wilt, and so on, as a paint protector and as a help/team defender but he was a great shot-blocker as well, and monster rebounder. Dude would be winning DPOYs, no doubt. He was also more than solid on the offensive end, so he would probably be the best center in the game, at his very best.

Damn...

[Railgun]

Only Lebron and Durant could rival prime Moses for best in the game, nowadays. At his peak he was simply great, just a beast, no bigman today could even dream of competing with him, he'd be killing these centers especially, snatching some MVPs along the way. Think of something like a bigger and even more physical Kevin Love on the boards, a relentless center that would go inside and bang with anyone, with some great finishing skills and good touch down-low, something like a taller and more athletic Zach Randolph, a center that would draw many fouls and hit his FT's at a good %, also with a nice post-game and taking/making some jumpers, even, as well. Also pretty good on defense, at his best, could be a blackhole on offense many times though, but he was very impactful leading his teams.

Right now, only Durant can be argued as a better scorer than peak McAdoo. Big Mac is really underrated/overlooked these days, he was a great player, just go watch that man play, he had a great prime that even came in his first years and didn't last long because of injuries, such a shame. Think of him as sort of a mixture between KD, Dirk and Garnett. He could really shoot the rock, had plenty of range, one of the GOAT at making contested jumpers, very athletic, great in transition, could handle the ball and attack the rim, good post-game, could reach 80% from the FT line, great rebounder, smart and good defensively.
In his younger/best days he had to play at center because of his teams needs - causing great mismatches but also getting "abused" by taller/bigger centers - but he was more of a PF or even SF, call him a stretch 4 on offense.
Certainly top3 in the game, best big, and would be a very top threat for MVP every time, right now at his best. He only had like 3 seasons at that level, at his best level, because of constant injuries, though.

Gilmore was really tall, scary strong, plus pretty skilled on various areas, great player/talent but he was many times called lazy, or better yet not agressive enough, and said to not live up to his full potential or just "relaxing" too much on the court. Still, considering the centers of today, he would definitely be the best center in the game. Dude would most likely be leading the league in FG% while scoring more than 20, grabbing plenty of boards, playing some pretty good D with his shot-blocking, and he could also pass the rock.

Thurmond would be the best defensive player in the game most likely.. Arguably the GOAT m2m post-defender as he really "locked, more than a couple of times, centers like Wilt, Kareem or Reed, in a way that nobody quite did or could do; he wasn't on a level of a Russell or even a Wilt, and so on, as a paint protector and as a help/team defender but he was a great shot-blocker as well, and monster rebounder. Dude would be winning DPOYs, no doubt. He was also more than solid on the offensive end, so he would probably be the best center in the game, at his very best.

Did not read.

[Rose'sACL]

Only Lebron and Durant could rival prime Moses for best in the game, nowadays. At his peak he was simply great, just a beast, no bigman today could even dream of competing with him, he'd be killing these centers especially, snatching some MVPs along the way. Think of something like a bigger and even more physical Kevin Love on the boards, a relentless center that would go inside and bang with anyone, with some great finishing skills and good touch down-low, something like a taller and more athletic Zach Randolph, a center that would draw many fouls and hit his FT's at a good %, also with a nice post-game and taking/making some jumpers, even, as well. Also pretty good on defense, at his best, could be a blackhole on offense many times though, but he was very impactful leading his teams.

Right now, only Durant can be argued as a better scorer than peak McAdoo. Big Mac is really underrated/overlooked these days, he was a great player, just go watch that man play, he had a great prime that even came in his first years and didn't last long because of injuries, such a shame. Think of him as sort of a mixture between KD, Dirk and Garnett. He could really shoot the rock, had plenty of range, one of the GOAT at making contested jumpers, very athletic, great in transition, could handle the ball and attack the rim, good post-game, could reach 80% from the FT line, great rebounder, smart and good defensively.
In his younger/best days he had to play at center because of his teams needs - causing great mismatches but also getting "abused" by taller/bigger centers - but he was more of a PF or even SF, call him a stretch 4 on offense.
Certainly top3 in the game, best big, and would be a very top threat for MVP every time, right now at his best. He only had like 3 seasons at that level, at his best level, because of constant injuries, though.

Gilmore was really tall, scary strong, plus pretty skilled on various areas, great player/talent but he was many times called lazy, or better yet not agressive enough, and said to not live up to his full potential or just "relaxing" too much on the court. Still, considering the centers of today, he would definitely be the best center in the game. Dude would most likely be leading the league in FG% while scoring more than 20, grabbing plenty of boards, playing some pretty good D with his shot-blocking, and he could also pass the rock.

Thurmond would be the best defensive player in the game most likely.. Arguably the GOAT m2m post-defender as he really "locked, more than a couple of times, centers like Wilt, Kareem or Reed, in a way that nobody quite did or could do; he wasn't on a level of a Russell or even a Wilt, and so on, as a paint protector and as a help/team defender but he was a great shot-blocker as well, and monster rebounder. Dude would be winning DPOYs, no doubt. He was also more than solid on the offensive end, so he would probably be the best center in the game, at his very best.

didn't read. Too much bold like you are afraid that people might miss your post.

[aj1987]

He would be facing different defenses, in a different era, and in a league in which there was no 3pt shot.

No, he wouldn't have come close to the player he is now...

Sure. Lets not act like West, who was 6'2" and 190, was averaging 30 PPG back then.

[LAZERUSS]

Could not read.

As in...could not comprehend...

[LAZERUSS]

Sure. Lets not act like West, who was 6'2" and 190, was averaging 30 PPG back then.

How in the hell did Iverson average over 30 in THIS era then?

Oh and how is a 6-8 white guy among the league leaders in rebounding, and who in fact, LED the league, and by a wide margin, a couple of years ago, and all while playing 35 mpg?

Or a 6-2 37 year old white guy like Steve Nash running away with APG titles, and doing so in 33 mpg in THIS era?

[Suguru101]

Sure. Lets not act like West, who was 6'2" and 190, was averaging 30 PPG back then.

Meh, don't mest with West, he was legit. He was actually 6'4.

Look at him like a less athletic Wade but with a much better jumpshot/freethrows.