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NBA Legend
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
Originally Posted by The Bird
Why is everyone constantly shocked at the expensive contracts big men get? It's like you're all goldfish with five second memories.
Who is shocked? Just because people say it is too much to pay him doesn't mean they are shocked.
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Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
Originally Posted by tontoz
Who is shocked? Just because people say it is too much to pay him doesn't mean they are shocked.
RIF
Why is that too much to pay him if that's generally the market for big men with potential?
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NBA Legend
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
Originally Posted by The Bird
Why is that too much to pay him if that's generally the market for big men with potential?
Because he is soft and dumb as a rock. Potential means that he hasn't done crap yet. That's all.
Having watched him i would pay him $5 million/yr. Getting rid of him was addition by subtraction.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
Originally Posted by tontoz
Because he is soft and dumb as a rock. Potential means that he hasn't done crap yet. That's all.
Having watched him i would pay him $5 million/yr. Getting rid of him was addition by subtraction.
Do you think athletes don't ever mature or get better?
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NBA Legend
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
Do you think athletes don't ever mature or get better?
Some do, some don't. Some get worse, especially after they sign a big deal.
Some guys don't have the capacity/desire to learn/improve. Seeing how McGee played in a contract year told me all i needed to know.
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Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
Here's the players who were somewhat close to McGee as shot blocker and rebounder.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...=&order_by=per
Most of those guys are part timers. Of those that aren't Dalembert is getting on and worse offensively. DeAndre is sort of similar but worse, more raw with less offensive upside. And Hibbert has a much higher b-ball IQ, but a lesser rebounder, shot blocker, less accurate from the field, lacks McGee's upside and athleticism and is going to be getting much more per year.
Because the Wizards sucked the only context through which most people payed any attention to McGee was his screwups.
The Wizards were a terrible place for a young player to develop in any case with a lot of low basketball IQ guys (including Javale) and some with questionable character.
So in conclusion given the present market for centers in which apparently Brook Lopez is a max guy, ten million a year is fine, perhaps even quite good.
In fact with a marginal actual improvement and a boost in minutes and profile McGee could be in play for MIP.
Now would you want McGee to smarten up on court, sure. But even if he doesn't this will hardly be the worst contract handed out this summer.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
Originally Posted by Owl
Here's the players who were somewhat close to McGee as shot blocker and rebounder.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...=&order_by=per
Most of those guys are part timers. Of those that aren't Dalembert is getting on and worse offensively. DeAndre is sort of similar but worse, more raw with less offensive upside. And Hibbert has a much higher b-ball IQ, but a lesser rebounder, shot blocker, less accurate from the field, lacks McGee's upside and athleticism and is going to be getting much more per year.
Because the Wizards sucked the only context through which most people payed any attention to McGee was his screwups.
The Wizards were a terrible place for a young player to develop in any case with a lot of low basketball IQ guys (including Javale) and some with questionable character.
So in conclusion given the present market for centers in which apparently Brook Lopez is a max guy, ten million a year is fine, perhaps even quite good.
In fact with a marginal actual improvement and a boost in minutes and profile McGee could be in play for MIP.
Now would you want McGee to smarten up on court, sure. But even if he doesn't this will hardly be the worst contract handed out this summer.
He's actually being lowballed. He deserves $12 million+.
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Local High School Star
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
but but.. he has hakeem moves bro
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The Puppeteer
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
it's too much, but right at market value compared to what centers have gotten the last couple of years (Hibbert, Lopez, Asik, Chandler, Jordan, Nene etc)
and i for some reason have faith in McGee
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The Puppeteer
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
Do you think athletes don't ever mature or get better?
You can't fix low IQ.
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3-time NBA All-Star
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
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NBA Legend
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
George Karl probably thinks he can make something out of him, he was playing much better later in the season when he joined the Nuggz.
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NBA Legend
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
It takes a special talent to have the worst +/- on two teams in the same season. McGee accomplished this last season. I doubt many others have.
I remember one sequence last season when he was trying to post up Isiah Thomas, the little pg, and couldn't do it. Isiah wasn't letting McGee get position easily enough so McGee flopped. when he didn't get the call he got mad at the ref.
He goes down to the other end and purposefully lets a guy drive past him so he can send a goaltend spike deep into the stands. And while the play was unfolding the Wizards coach got up off the bench and made the goaltend signal, before the opposing player even took the shot.
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NBA Legend
Re: Javale McGee offered 5yrs 50mil
Originally Posted by dunksby
George Karl probably thinks he can make something out of him, he was playing much better later in the season when he joined the Nuggz.
No he wasn't.
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