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Boom Baby!
Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?
Originally Posted by 3ball
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Starting PG's With at Least 15.0 PER
[COLOR="White"]......[/COLOR]1997[COLOR="White"]..............................[/COLOR]2014
Penny Hardaway................. Russell Westbrook
Gary Payton....................... Chris Paul
Jason Kidd......................... Tony Parker
Tim Hardaway.................... John Wall
Kevin Johnson.................... Steph Curry
Allen Iverson...................... Monta Ellis
Nick Van Exel..................... Kyrie Irving
John Stockton.................... Rajon Rondo
Sam Cassell....................... Goran Dragic
Stephon Marbury................ Damian Lillard
Terrell Brandon.................. Jeff Teague
Damon Stoudamire............. Ty Lawson
Mookie Blaylock.................. Kyle Lowry
Rod Strickland.................... Deron Williams
Kenny Anderson................. Eric Bledsoe
Darrick Martin.................... Mike Conley
Mark Price......................... Jrue Holiday
Greg Anthony..................... Isiah Thomas
David Wesley..................... Kemba Walker
pretty close if you ask me - slight edge to 2014, which doesn't make up for the 2014 deficits at the SG, SF, PF, and C positions.
How could you forget the league leader in assists for 96-97? Would probably take Mark Jackson over half of the players you listed
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Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?
It's been a long time since I posted in this forum but post like this just can't get by without an adequate response. Do you realize that right know the NBA has no position in which is better than the 80's or 90's? May be you can say PF (that decade's weakest position) but the 80's still produced Barkley, K. Malone, McHale, Buck Williams, Dennis Rodman, Oakley, AC Green, Roy Tarpley, X McDaniel, Larry Nancy etc... Or SG (Second Weakest) and still Jordan, Drexler, Moncrief, Scott, Dumars, Ron Harper, Andrew Toney, Rolando Blackman, Walter Davis etc... When it comes to the C, PG and SF it's not even funny how in favor it turns to the 80's. You want to know why the 80's offenses ran like well oiled machines? take a look at this list:
First Tier:
Magic Johnson- Lakers
Norm Nixon- Lakers, Clippers
Isaiah Thomas- Pistons
Dennis Johnson- Suns, Celtics
Terry Porter- Blazers
Fat Lever- Nuggets
Maurice Cheeks- Sixers
Doc Rivers- Hawks
John Stockton- Jazz
Derek Harper- Mavericks
John Lucas- Bullets, Hawks
Nate McMillan- Sonics
Mark Jackson- Knicks
Kevin Johnson- Suns
Mark Price- Cavs
Sleepy Floyd- Warriors
Michael Ray Richardson-Knicks
Second Tier
John Moore (Underrated), Reggie Thieus, Frank Johnson, Gus Williams, John Paxson Larry Drew, Geoff Huston (Very Underrated), Gerald Henderson, Vern Flemming
Count how many all stars and hall of famers are in on that list. In a 23 team league that was pivotal to why the offenses ran as well as they did. The last decade in which the PG was the true quarterback/coach on the floor and was not looking to score 25 to 30 points and at a time when the rules did not favor guards as they do today.
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Bran Fam Member
Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?
Originally Posted by 3ball
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Starting PG's With at Least 15.0 PER
[COLOR="White"]......[/COLOR]1997[COLOR="White"]..............................[/COLOR]2014
Penny Hardaway................. Russell Westbrook
Gary Payton....................... Chris Paul
Jason Kidd......................... Tony Parker
Tim Hardaway.................... John Wall
Kevin Johnson.................... Steph Curry
Allen Iverson...................... Monta Ellis
Nick Van Exel..................... Kyrie Irving
John Stockton.................... Rajon Rondo
Sam Cassell....................... Goran Dragic
Stephon Marbury................ Damian Lillard
Terrell Brandon.................. Jeff Teague
Damon Stoudamire............. Ty Lawson
Mookie Blaylock.................. Kyle Lowry
Rod Strickland.................... Deron Williams
Kenny Anderson................. Eric Bledsoe
Darrick Martin.................... Mike Conley
Mark Price......................... Jrue Holiday
Greg Anthony..................... Isiah Thomas
David Wesley..................... Kemba Walker
pretty close if you ask me - slight edge to 2014, which doesn't make up for the 2014 deficits at the SG, SF, PF, and C positions.
Pretty close? Westbrook, CP3 & Curry are better than any other PG on that list.
Yes, better than Stockton.
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Shazam!
Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?
The mid 2000s pfs. Duncan/dirk/kg/sheed/brand/oneal/Jamison/boozer(he was actually good once) zbo, Lamar odom/Chris bosh/pau Gasol/amare(Marion also played a lot of pf)/kirilenko
I left webber off because he got hurt right before a bunch of the other guys got there and Malone because he finally got old at the same time but man was there a lot of talent at that position for a long time.
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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?
Originally Posted by Showtime80'
It's been a long time since I posted in this forum but post like this just can't get by without an adequate response. Do you realize that right know the NBA has no position in which is better than the 80's or 90's? May be you can say PF (that decade's weakest position) but the 80's still produced Barkley, K. Malone, McHale, Buck Williams, Dennis Rodman, Oakley, AC Green, Roy Tarpley, X McDaniel, Larry Nancy etc... Or SG (Second Weakest) and still Jordan, Drexler, Moncrief, Scott, Dumars, Ron Harper, Andrew Toney, Rolando Blackman, Walter Davis etc... When it comes to the C, PG and SF it's not even funny how in favor it turns to the 80's. You want to know why the 80's offenses ran like well oiled machines? take a look at this list:
First Tier:
Magic Johnson- Lakers
Norm Nixon- Lakers, Clippers
Isaiah Thomas- Pistons
Dennis Johnson- Suns, Celtics
Terry Porter- Blazers
Fat Lever- Nuggets
Maurice Cheeks- Sixers
Doc Rivers- Hawks
John Stockton- Jazz
Derek Harper- Mavericks
John Lucas- Bullets, Hawks
Nate McMillan- Sonics
Mark Jackson- Knicks
Kevin Johnson- Suns
Mark Price- Cavs
Sleepy Floyd- Warriors
Michael Ray Richardson-Knicks
Second Tier
John Moore (Underrated), Reggie Thieus, Frank Johnson, Gus Williams, John Paxson Larry Drew, Geoff Huston (Very Underrated), Gerald Henderson, Vern Flemming
Count how many all stars and hall of famers are in on that list. In a 23 team league that was pivotal to why the offenses ran as well as they did. The last decade in which the PG was the true quarterback/coach on the floor and was not looking to score 25 to 30 points and at a time when the rules did not favor guards as they do today.
Gus Williams is first tier.
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Championship or bust
Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?
i wonder how well a player like Mahmoud Abdul- would do in today's game.
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