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  1. #16
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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    Starting PG's With at Least 15.0 PER


    [COLOR="White"]......[/COLOR]1997[COLOR="White"]..............................[/COLOR]2014

    Penny Hardaway................. Russell Westbrook
    Gary Payton....................... Chris Paul
    Jason Kidd......................... Tony Parker
    Tim Hardaway.................... John Wall
    Kevin Johnson.................... Steph Curry
    Allen Iverson...................... Monta Ellis
    Nick Van Exel..................... Kyrie Irving
    John Stockton.................... Rajon Rondo
    Sam Cassell....................... Goran Dragic
    Stephon Marbury................ Damian Lillard
    Terrell Brandon.................. Jeff Teague
    Damon Stoudamire............. Ty Lawson
    Mookie Blaylock.................. Kyle Lowry
    Rod Strickland.................... Deron Williams
    Kenny Anderson................. Eric Bledsoe
    Darrick Martin.................... Mike Conley
    Mark Price......................... Jrue Holiday
    Greg Anthony..................... Isiah Thomas
    David Wesley..................... Kemba Walker


    pretty close if you ask me - slight edge to 2014, which doesn't make up for the 2014 deficits at the SG, SF, PF, and C positions.
    How could you forget the league leader in assists for 96-97? Would probably take Mark Jackson over half of the players you listed

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    It's been a long time since I posted in this forum but post like this just can't get by without an adequate response. Do you realize that right know the NBA has no position in which is better than the 80's or 90's? May be you can say PF (that decade's weakest position) but the 80's still produced Barkley, K. Malone, McHale, Buck Williams, Dennis Rodman, Oakley, AC Green, Roy Tarpley, X McDaniel, Larry Nancy etc... Or SG (Second Weakest) and still Jordan, Drexler, Moncrief, Scott, Dumars, Ron Harper, Andrew Toney, Rolando Blackman, Walter Davis etc... When it comes to the C, PG and SF it's not even funny how in favor it turns to the 80's. You want to know why the 80's offenses ran like well oiled machines? take a look at this list:

    First Tier:

    Magic Johnson- Lakers
    Norm Nixon- Lakers, Clippers
    Isaiah Thomas- Pistons
    Dennis Johnson- Suns, Celtics
    Terry Porter- Blazers
    Fat Lever- Nuggets
    Maurice Cheeks- Sixers
    Doc Rivers- Hawks
    John Stockton- Jazz
    Derek Harper- Mavericks
    John Lucas- Bullets, Hawks
    Nate McMillan- Sonics
    Mark Jackson- Knicks
    Kevin Johnson- Suns
    Mark Price- Cavs
    Sleepy Floyd- Warriors
    Michael Ray Richardson-Knicks

    Second Tier

    John Moore (Underrated), Reggie Thieus, Frank Johnson, Gus Williams, John Paxson Larry Drew, Geoff Huston (Very Underrated), Gerald Henderson, Vern Flemming

    Count how many all stars and hall of famers are in on that list. In a 23 team league that was pivotal to why the offenses ran as well as they did. The last decade in which the PG was the true quarterback/coach on the floor and was not looking to score 25 to 30 points and at a time when the rules did not favor guards as they do today.

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    Starting PG's With at Least 15.0 PER


    [COLOR="White"]......[/COLOR]1997[COLOR="White"]..............................[/COLOR]2014

    Penny Hardaway................. Russell Westbrook
    Gary Payton....................... Chris Paul
    Jason Kidd......................... Tony Parker
    Tim Hardaway.................... John Wall
    Kevin Johnson.................... Steph Curry
    Allen Iverson...................... Monta Ellis
    Nick Van Exel..................... Kyrie Irving
    John Stockton.................... Rajon Rondo
    Sam Cassell....................... Goran Dragic
    Stephon Marbury................ Damian Lillard
    Terrell Brandon.................. Jeff Teague
    Damon Stoudamire............. Ty Lawson
    Mookie Blaylock.................. Kyle Lowry
    Rod Strickland.................... Deron Williams
    Kenny Anderson................. Eric Bledsoe
    Darrick Martin.................... Mike Conley
    Mark Price......................... Jrue Holiday
    Greg Anthony..................... Isiah Thomas
    David Wesley..................... Kemba Walker


    pretty close if you ask me - slight edge to 2014, which doesn't make up for the 2014 deficits at the SG, SF, PF, and C positions.
    Pretty close? Westbrook, CP3 & Curry are better than any other PG on that list.

    Yes, better than Stockton.

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    The mid 2000s pfs. Duncan/dirk/kg/sheed/brand/oneal/Jamison/boozer(he was actually good once) zbo, Lamar odom/Chris bosh/pau Gasol/amare(Marion also played a lot of pf)/kirilenko

    I left webber off because he got hurt right before a bunch of the other guys got there and Malone because he finally got old at the same time but man was there a lot of talent at that position for a long time.

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    Quote Originally Posted by Showtime80'
    It's been a long time since I posted in this forum but post like this just can't get by without an adequate response. Do you realize that right know the NBA has no position in which is better than the 80's or 90's? May be you can say PF (that decade's weakest position) but the 80's still produced Barkley, K. Malone, McHale, Buck Williams, Dennis Rodman, Oakley, AC Green, Roy Tarpley, X McDaniel, Larry Nancy etc... Or SG (Second Weakest) and still Jordan, Drexler, Moncrief, Scott, Dumars, Ron Harper, Andrew Toney, Rolando Blackman, Walter Davis etc... When it comes to the C, PG and SF it's not even funny how in favor it turns to the 80's. You want to know why the 80's offenses ran like well oiled machines? take a look at this list:

    First Tier:

    Magic Johnson- Lakers
    Norm Nixon- Lakers, Clippers
    Isaiah Thomas- Pistons
    Dennis Johnson- Suns, Celtics
    Terry Porter- Blazers
    Fat Lever- Nuggets
    Maurice Cheeks- Sixers
    Doc Rivers- Hawks
    John Stockton- Jazz
    Derek Harper- Mavericks
    John Lucas- Bullets, Hawks
    Nate McMillan- Sonics
    Mark Jackson- Knicks
    Kevin Johnson- Suns
    Mark Price- Cavs
    Sleepy Floyd- Warriors
    Michael Ray Richardson-Knicks

    Second Tier

    John Moore (Underrated), Reggie Thieus, Frank Johnson, Gus Williams, John Paxson Larry Drew, Geoff Huston (Very Underrated), Gerald Henderson, Vern Flemming

    Count how many all stars and hall of famers are in on that list. In a 23 team league that was pivotal to why the offenses ran as well as they did. The last decade in which the PG was the true quarterback/coach on the floor and was not looking to score 25 to 30 points and at a time when the rules did not favor guards as they do today.
    Gus Williams is first tier.

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    i wonder how well a player like Mahmoud Abdul- would do in today's game.

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