Best bet to average 25+ ppg on 50+% shooting?

[Sarcastic]

Love to hear explanation

The explanation is that Durant has a great TS%, and this helps boost him up.

[Jon101]

MJ never did it? Then it's a worthless stat.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Joke thread, FG% is a garbage stat

You're an idiot, TS% is a useful stat(just about the only useful advanced stat I can think of), but ignoring FG% is asinine, though you have a clear agenda so I know why you do it.

We've been over this?./ A missed free throw isn't as damaging as a missed field goal because your defense can still set up, however, many more transition opportunities occur off of missed field goals.

Players with high FG% are also players you can rely on more for consistently good performances over more streaky scorers.

FG% is far from a garbage stat and this is all besides the point. Nobody asked you for your opinion on this stat.

MJ never did it? Then it's a worthless stat.

Jordan did it many times, but this thread only listed players who did it in the 00's. A lot more players did it in the 80's and 90's.

[Sarcastic]

MJ never did it? Then it's a worthless stat.

He did it 6 times.

[Sarcastic]

Just looking at some of the other people who did. Shaq(10) did it more times than Wilt Chamberlain(6). Surprising.

[YouCallILose]

You're an idiot, TS% is a useful stat(just about the only useful advanced stat I can think of), but ignoring FG% is asinine, though you have a clear agenda so I know why you do it.

We've been over this?./ A missed free throw isn't as damaging as a missed field goal because your defense can still set up, however, many more transition opportunities occur off of missed field goals.

Players with high FG% are also players you can rely on more for consistently good performances over more streaky scorers.

FG% is far from a garbage stat and this is all besides the point. Nobody asked you for your opinion on this stat.



Jordan did it many times, but this thread only listed players who did it in the 00's. A lot more players did it in the 80's and 90's.

Use eFG% tard boy

How can you ignore free throws which is roughly 20% of the game?

[donald_trump]

Use eFG% tard boy

How can you ignore free throws which is roughly 20% of the game?

how can you ignore the ones durant gets which are roughly 50% bullshit?

[YouCallILose]

how can you ignore the ones durant gets which are roughly 50% bullshit?

do they count as points?

i guess 3rd year durant was getting more calls than prime kobe & lebron

[SinJackal]

Use eFG% tard boy

How can you ignore free throws which is roughly 20% of the game?

Even with eFG%, that doesn't account for all the bricks and changes of possession a player with low FG% causes even though he's getting extra points from threes.

They are deceptive stats that only tell one part of the story. TS% also doesn't account for And1's. It's just a basic formula that doesn't accurately depict a player's actual efficiancy at scoring. Which is why it's a broken stat.

If you really didn't already know that, you should seriously stop trying to debate with people like that's some incredible tell-all stat. Because it isn't.

If you really do want to go that route, simply go look up who the league leaders have been for TS% year after year. Hell, even just look up perimeter players if you think the big men who lead the league in TS% every year are bogus. You'll see that guys like Ginobili and Allen typically always score more efficiantly than the Kobes and Durants. Does that mean they're better scorers to you than the Kobes and Durants?

do they count as points?

i guess 3rd year durant was getting more calls than prime kobe & lebron

3rd year Durant was getting more calls than prime MJ too. If you factor the difference in FGAs, and not just look at the FTAs, you can see Durant was getting more FTAs per FGA than even MJ was. . .in ANY season of your choice. Awkward.

[YouCallILose]

Even with eFG%, that doesn't account for all the bricks and changes of possession a player with low FG% causes even though he's getting extra points from threes.

They are deceptive stats that only tell one part of the story. TS% also doesn't account for And1's. It's just a basic formula that doesn't accurately depict a player's actual efficiancy at scoring. Which is why it's a broken stat.

If you really didn't already know that, you should seriously stop trying to debate with people like that's some incredible tell-all stat. Because it isn't.

If you really do want to go that route, simply go look up who the league leaders have been for TS% year after year. Hell, even just look up perimeter players if you think the big men who lead the league in TS% every year are bogus. You'll see that guys like Ginobili and Allen typically always score more efficiantly than the Kobes and Durants. Does that mean they're better scorers to you than the Kobes and Durants?

Durant just became the 1st person in 20 years to average 30 a game with a TS>60%..what are you talking about?

[SinJackal]

Durant just became the 1st person in 20 years to average 30 a game with a TS>60%..what are you talking about?

Only season over .600.

He's .570% career.

Ginobili's had a higher TS% than him every season besides last season, and last season Durant's was barely higher anyway. Barely higher than one of Manu's lowest TS% season's of his career.

Manu's also had 3 seasons with a higher TS% than Durant had last season. Ray Allen's had two higher than that. Durant also had barely better TS% than Allen last year too, and lower than him every other year besides that.

So yes, my point stands. Players like Manu and Allen typically have higher TS%'s than those players like the Kobes and Durants. Pointing out one season where that wasn't the case doesn't debunk the statement that Many and Ray typically have higher TS%'s. Typically doesn't mean "always", it means "usually".

Ray Allen career TS%: .576 (.581 this year so far)

Durant career TS%: .570 (.516 this year so far)

Ginobili career TS%: .590 (.602 this year so far)

Kobe career TS: .557 (.578 this year so far)


Both Allen and Manu have higher career TS% than both players, and have a higher TS% than both players this year again. Kobe with the nice TS% though, keeping close with Ray. So props to him for the efficiant year so far.

[BlueandGold]

The explanation is that Durant has a great TS%, and this helps boost him up.

Oh great another retard who can only say things like

Shaq >>> Duncan

or FG%>>>TS%%

without saving a word to back it up because they know they won't have to defend themselves.

[New York Knicks]

Paul Millsap!

[Fatal9]

You'll see that guys like Ginobili and Allen typically always score more efficiantly than the Kobes and Durants. Does that mean they're better scorers to you than the Kobes and Durants?

Not sure if you're actually so dumb that you don't realize or consider the higher volume that guys like Kobe, Durant, Wade etc score on compared to guys like Ginobili and Allen (and other stuff like facing more defensive attention every night).

[New York Knicks]

Not sure if you're actually so dumb that you don't realize or consider the higher volume that guys like Kobe, Durant, Wade etc score on compared to guys like Ginobili and Allen (and other stuff like facing more defensive attention every night).

LeBron James averaged just under 30 on 50% shooting (despite taking a large number of threes) last season. And he probably had more defensive attention on him than anyone in the league, definitely more than Kobe and Durant. Is LeBron a better scorer than those two?