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College superstar
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
He's top 5 BEST basketball players ever, at the very least
As for GOAT, he's top 10 at the very least.
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NBA Legend
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Not sure where you got those figures from. Wade is 290-243 in games he's started without LeBron, 280-202 if you remove that aberration of the '08 season
Sorry, I used that with both Shaq and Lebron.
Without those two, he has a losing record, and never makes it to the Finals.
Just an FYI...the year in which he won a FMVP...with Shaq... 42-17. Without Shaq... 10-13. Same thing the next season. With Shaq... 25-15. Without...19-23.
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College star
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
Originally Posted by warriorfan
No one remembers regular season records, they remember Chips.
Grandpa Loseruss makes it a point to give props to the regular season because that's where his boy shined. And don't mention chips, GOAT choker only has 2.
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NBA Legend
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
Originally Posted by Asukal
Grandpa Loseruss makes it a point to give props to the regular season because that's where his boy shined. And don't mention chips, GOAT choker only has 2.
The "GOAT choker" who SLAUGHTERED the GOAT "winner" in their 143 career H2H's, and destroyed him in their biggest games.
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College star
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
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Heat Nation
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Sorry, I used that with both Shaq and Lebron.
Without those two, he has a losing record, and never makes it to the Finals.
Just an FYI...the year in which he won a FMVP...with Shaq... 42-17. Without Shaq... 10-13. Same thing the next season. With Shaq... 25-15. Without...19-23.
Wait, so a player whose missing his 2nd option and a dominant center doesn't have as good of a record when his 2nd options out? you are the most retarded poster.
Carried Wade 4 straight years.
Year 1- 26/6/5/2/1
Year 2- 22/5/5/1/1
Year 3- 21/5/5/2/1
Year 4- 19/5/5/1/1 (limited minutes)
"Carried"
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High School Starter
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
The Cavaliers aren't supposed to be a dynasty. LeBron would have had a higher chance of winning on many different teams, but he wants to bring 1 ring to Cleveland. Not a 3-peat.
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NBA Legend
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
Originally Posted by Papaya Petee
Wait, so a player whose missing his 2nd option and a dominant center doesn't have as good of a record when his 2nd options out? you are the most retarded poster.
Carried Wade 4 straight years.
Year 1- 26/6/5/2/1
Year 2- 22/5/5/1/1
Year 3- 21/5/5/2/1
Year 4- 19/5/5/1/1 (limited minutes)
"Carried"
Wade was the man in '11. How did that work out?
After that, while Wade continued to crumble...Lebron carried the next three teams to the Finals, winning two rings, and two FMVP's, and with ZERO help from Wade in the one he "lost."
Oh, and how did Wade do in '15, without Lebron?
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NBA Legend
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
Originally Posted by Asukal
Easy...I'll take the best player. Swap rosters with Russell, and Chamberlain would have had 11 rings. No question.
When he did have a roster that was the equal of Russell's, and healthy...a 4-1 crushing of the eight-time defending champion 60-21 Celtics, in a near sweep.
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High School Starter
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Sorry, I used that with both Shaq and Lebron.
Without those two, he has a losing record, and never makes it to the Finals.
Just an FYI...the year in which he won a FMVP...with Shaq... 42-17. Without Shaq... 10-13. Same thing the next season. With Shaq... 25-15. Without...19-23.
Rat poison
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College star
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NBA Legend
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
Originally Posted by Asukal
Ah...NO...
Chamberlain held a 7-2 margin in First-Team All-NBA selections in their 10 years in the league together, and he was far more dominant in the two in which he did not. ESPECIALLY in '65, when he took his 40-40 Sixers to a game seven, one point loss, against a 62-18 Celtics, at the apex of their dynasty...in a series in which Chamberlain hung a 30 ppg, 31 rpg, .555 FG% stat-line, which included a game seven of 30 points, on 12-15 shooting from the floor, with 32 rebounds (scoring Philly's last eight points BTW.)
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A humble prophet
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
Wade was the man in '11. How did that work out?
After that, while Wade continued to crumble...Lebron carried the next three teams to the Finals, winning two rings, and two FMVP's, and with ZERO help from Wade in the one he "lost."
Oh, and how did Wade do in '15, without Lebron?
This dude is shameless: he's on some Pauk-level retarded shit right now.
Keep to your Wilt slurping - even that makes you look like a fanatical dumbass, but at least you occasionally say something interesting, whereas whenever you have anything to say on more recent basketball, it is almost always utter drivel, with the above post being the case in point.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
Originally Posted by Kobe_6/8
Rat poison
Lol, you can literally say the same exact thing for Kobe without Shaq & Gasol
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A humble prophet
Re: Cavaliers will never be a dynasty because of LeBron ball
Lazeruss has never heard of the word "context" it seems.
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