Gilbert Arenas Say's LeBron will never Be On Kobe's Or Jordan's Level

[ShawkFactory]

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If that comforts you then yes.

I like to make people happy. It makes ME happy.

I could start arguing something..but we both know that would be pointless, don't we? (winkie face)

[3ball]

I like to make people happy. It makes ME happy.

Nah, you're just scared of this:

In 2009, Lebron's 28/8/7 + supporting cast = 66 wins... Compare to the 1989 Bulls, where MJ's 33/8/8 + supporting cast = 47 wins..

So algebra proves that Lebron's cast was vastly superior... He had legit 60-win supporting casts that were the favorite and lost in the playoffs TWICE as the 1 seed (so no flukey, just suckey).

And the 2011 season VERIFIED that 2009 and 2010 were choke jobs that resulted from Lebron-ball's suboptimal style.. Lebron played with the most talented Big 3 of all time in 2011 (prime Wade and Bosh) but couldn't win the championship against a far less talented team - he wasn't even the best player on his own team and had the biggest choke in the history of basketball..

So don't overrate his career like most people - it's not being smart - he underachieved every year from 2009-2011.
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[bizil]

For starters, Lebron is a completely different player than Kobe and MJ. All three guys are great at virtually every facet of basketball (scoring, passing, rebounding, defense) for their positions. BUT MJ and Kobe do it from a score first perspective. Bron does it from a pass first perspective. MJ and Kobe have two of the top ten scoring skillsets of all time. Bron's scoring skillset isn't as varied.

But he STILL has the 4th highest scoring average in NBA history!! And he's the most versatile player of all time. So are MJ and Kobe better alpha dogs than Bron, YES! Is Lebron still an alpha dog caliber player, YES! Can MJ and Kobe match Lebron's versatility, NO!

When u break it down like that, u see the uniqueness in Lebron's game. Stylistically, the players Lebron is most similar to are Magic, Big O, G Hill, and Pippen. In open court he reminds me of Dr. J BUT has the body of Karl Malone. SICK SHIT!!

[ShawkFactory]

Nah, you're just scared of this:

In 2009, Lebron's 28/8/7 + supporting cast = 66 wins... Compare to the 1989 Bulls, where MJ's 33/8/8 + supporting cast = 47 wins..

So algebra proves that Lebron's cast was vastly superior... He had legit 60-win supporting casts that were the favorite and lost in the playoffs TWICE as the 1 seed (so no flukey, just suckey).

And the 2011 season VERIFIED that 2009 and 2010 were choke jobs that resulted from Lebron-ball's suboptimal style.. Lebron played with the most talented Big 3 of all time in 2011 (prime Wade and Bosh) but couldn't win the championship against a far less talented team - he wasn't even the best player on his own team and had the biggest choke in the history of basketball..

So don't overrate his career like most people - it's not being smart - he underachieved every year from 2009-2011.
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Nah I'm not scared. You can trust me on that

[3ball]

Bron's scoring skillset isn't as varied.

He's the most versatile player of all time.

^^^^^ oxymoron.

Lebron is only elite in a point guard role - people don't take this seriously enough - if you told Lebron "hey lebron, you aren't allowed to use any live dribbles next game", he would have a horrible game - he wouldn't be nearly as good if he couldn't be the primary ballhandler.

Otoh, MJ and Kobe could still get 50 - certainly with MJ, he had 50 point games where he used little or no live dribbles... These guys had far superior scoring versatility and weren't just elite as the primary ballhandler - they were elite in ALL areas, including post, mid-range, on-ball and off-ball.

Can MJ and Kobe match Lebron's versatility, NO!

MJ and Kobe had far greater scoring versatility - their elite ability in ALL scoring areas was needed so they could play in whatever fashion enabled the best team chemistry..

Their ability to mix it up gave their team more capacity to overcome a wider range of opponent strategies and avoid being predictable/exploitable themselves (otoh, Lebron one-dimensional offensive attack has gotten him exploited on many occasion).
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[Mr Feeny]

I am obsessed with Feeny.

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[imnew09]

When Arena said something bad about Kobe yall Lebeta dikrisers were all on his d*** and now yall saying hes trash

Take this fken L 2/7

[Lakers Legend#32]

Is Arenas still alive?

[knicksman]

For starters, Lebron is a completely different player than Kobe and MJ. All three guys are great at virtually every facet of basketball (scoring, passing, rebounding, defense) for their positions. BUT MJ and Kobe do it from a score first perspective. Bron does it from a pass first perspective. MJ and Kobe have two of the top ten scoring skillsets of all time. Bron's scoring skillset isn't as varied.

But he STILL has the 4th highest scoring average in NBA history!! And he's the most versatile player of all time. So are MJ and Kobe better alpha dogs than Bron, YES! Is Lebron still an alpha dog caliber player, YES! Can MJ and Kobe match Lebron's versatility, NO!

When u break it down like that, u see the uniqueness in Lebron's game. Stylistically, the players Lebron is most similar to are Magic, Big O, G Hill, and Pippen. In open court he reminds me of Dr. J BUT has the body of Karl Malone. SICK SHIT!!

bran, kobe and mj are same type of players except for advance scoring skillset. Kobe and mj are just willing to sacrifice stats coz they knew they could deliver result while bran cant. They could still produce stats even in tough situations while bran has to accumulate his stats asap or he wont be compared by his stans to jordan/kobe. Bran is more like Big O, cant sacrifice stats, thus are losers.

[oarabbus]

buncha shiit
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3ball, honestly I don't care about the bullshit you're spouting. However, I do agree with you that Jordan is GOAT.

I just have one question, if you could be so kind as to answer. What is your #1, best of all time Jordan YouTube mix? Not a top 5 list, just the one single best mix on youtube.

[Cocaine80s]

Nah, you're just scared of this:

In 2009, Lebron's 28/8/7 + supporting cast = 66 wins... Compare to the 1989 Bulls, where MJ's 33/8/8 + supporting cast = 47 wins..

So algebra proves that Lebron's cast was vastly superior... He had legit 60-win supporting casts that were the favorite and lost in the playoffs TWICE as the 1 seed (so no flukey, just suckey).

And the 2011 season VERIFIED that 2009 and 2010 were choke jobs that resulted from Lebron-ball's suboptimal style.. Lebron played with the most talented Big 3 of all time in 2011 (prime Wade and Bosh) but couldn't win the championship against a far less talented team - he wasn't even the best player on his own team and had the biggest choke in the history of basketball..

So don't overrate his career like most people - it's not being smart - he underachieved every year from 2009-2011.
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Empty stats

Lebrons all around game impacts the team much more than Mjs

[Dragonyeuw]

Nah, you're just scared of this:

In 2009, Lebron's 28/8/7 + supporting cast = 66 wins... Compare to the 1989 Bulls, where MJ's 33/8/8 + supporting cast = 47 wins..

So algebra proves that Lebron's cast was vastly superior... He had legit 60-win supporting casts that were the favorite and lost in the playoffs TWICE as the 1 seed (so no flukey, just suckey).


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The eastern conference was an entirely different beast in 1989 and 2009. Thats IMO a bigger factor than the difference between their rosters.

[nzahir]

IF ANYONE READ HIS IG POST HE SAID LEBRON WILL END UP TOP 2-3 ALL TIME

And how can lebron not be a #1 scoring option when he has averaged more pts in his career than kobe up to this point?

[sportjames23]

Empty stats

Lebrons all around game impacts the team much more than Mjs

True, but in a negative way. Hence, 2/6.

[HurricaneKid]

Nah, you're just scared of this:

In 2009, Lebron's 28/8/7 + supporting cast = 66 wins... Compare to the 1989 Bulls, where MJ's 33/8/8 + supporting cast = 47 wins..

So algebra proves that Lebron's cast was vastly superior...

Holy ****. You don't understand math (or basketball) even a little.