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    Default Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    Giannis is the MVP of 2019 and I'll explain why very easily.



    At this point the MVP seems to have boiled down to three players:
    -James Harden
    -Giannis Antetokounmpo
    -Paul George


    When talking about MVP candidates everyone knows that wins matter. Let's look at last year's team win numbers compared to this year's

    Last year vs this year (+/-)

    -James Harden
    2018 = 65
    2019 = 52 (pace)
    Net = [COLOR="Red"]-13[/COLOR]

    -Giannis Antetokounmpo
    2018 = 44
    2019 = 60 (pace)
    [COLOR="Green"] Net = +16)[/COLOR]

    -Paul George
    2018 = 48
    2019 = 48 (pace)
    [COLOR="SlateGray"]Net = 0[/COLOR]

    Statistics also matter

    -James Harden
    36.5 ppg*, 6.5 rpg, 7.6 apg, 2.2 spg, 0.8 bpg, 44/36/88
    PER: 30.5
    WS: 13.1


    -Giannis Antetokounmpo
    27.5 ppg, 12.6 rpg, 6.0 apg, 1.3 spg, 1.4 bpg, 58/25/73
    PER: 30.7*
    WS: 13.2

    -Paul George
    28.2 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 4.2 apg, 2.2 spg*, 0.5 bpg, 44/39/84
    PER: 23.8
    WS: 11.1

    *denotes league leader

    Supporting cast

    -James Harden = Chris Paul; Clint Capela
    -Giannis Antetokounmpo = Kris Middleton; Eric Bledsoe
    -Paul George: Russell Westbrook (Former MVP); Steven Adams

    My vote is for Giannis

    He leads the league in PER (by a very small margin) arguably has less help than Harden and George, and also slightly edges Harden out in Win shares.

    The kicker is in the win total boost. The Bucks should end up with the best record in the NBA and will be a major improvement from last year's win total.

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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    You're feeling ok buddy? I swore u was gonna say Lebron . Proud of u

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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    Harden should run away with. He is averaging 8 more points than the 2nd leading scorer in the league, that is insane. Houston has also played as well as anyone in the Western conference after their slow start.

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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
    Harden should run away with. He is averaging 8 more points than the 2nd leading scorer in the league, that is insane. Houston has also played as well as anyone in the Western conference after their slow start.
    High IQ post.

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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    Harden has to average 9-10 more points and usage.. lol.. with nearly the same efficiency

    Harden easily

    And his best players were hurt most of the year.. it's no contest

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    Agreed best player on the best team + leading the league in PER and win shares the MVP should go to none other than the Nigerian Freak

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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
    Harden should run away with. He is averaging 8 more points than the 2nd leading scorer in the league, that is insane. Houston has also played as well as anyone in the Western conference after their slow start.
    I guess Kobe should have won MVP in 06 as well since ppg is all that seems to matter

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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Real14
    You're feeling ok buddy? I swore u was gonna say Lebron . Proud of u



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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    I guess Kobe should have won MVP in 06 as well since ppg is all that seems to matter
    Harden is the best playmaker in the league on top of averaging nearly 10pts more per game than the 2nd most. That is just crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superduper
    Harden is the best playmaker in the league on top of averaging nearly 10pts more per game than the 2nd most. That is just crazy.
    Not even the best playmaker on his team

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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    I think they will give it to Giannis based on record and cast.

    But the monster season of Harden is too big to be ignored, IMHO he has a slight edge om Giannis only for his huge advantage in ppg over the league also leading the team in assists and with an injured cast.

    Who I think should win: Harden.
    Who I think would win: Giannis

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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    Okay so consensus at ISH is to cut PG13, I'm fine with that. So now we have two candidates

    Harden and Giannis

    James Harden
    36.5 ppg*, 6.5 rpg, 7.6 apg, 2.2 spg, 0.8 bpg, 44/36/88
    PER: 30.5
    WS: 13.1
    Record = 52 (pace)


    Giannis Antetokounmpo
    27.5 ppg, 12.6 rpg, 6.0 apg, 1.3 spg, 1.4 bpg, 58/25/73
    PER: 30.7*
    WS: 13.2
    Record = 60 (pace)

    Can we really ignore Giannis's defensive impact and 8+ wins, not to mention Harden's wins dropped off from last year...Was that Ariza's doing last year?

    If we delve into other advanced analytics we fiind:
    DRtg
    Harden: 109
    Giannis: 99

    ORtg:
    Harden: 118
    Giannis: 121

    Gianni's numbers are ridiculous, right on par with LeBron in Miami when he won MVP


    2009 LBJ
    ORtg: 122
    DRtg: 99

    2010 LBJ
    ORtg: 121
    DRtg: 102


    2012 LBJ
    ORtg: 118
    DRtg: 97

    2013 LBJ
    ORtg: 125
    DRtg: 101

    1991 MJ (best year)
    ORtg: 125
    DRtg: 102


    So clearly Giannis is not at LBJ's peak for MVP, and MJ was extremely close, but Giannis isn't terribly far behind at 121 ORtg, 99 DRtg

    Scary shit to say the least...

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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    ^Nice quality post Corp, and unbelievably no mention of LeBron or hidden agenda, that I can see. You should post like this more often.

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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Elosha
    ^Nice quality post Corp, and unbelievably no mention of LeBron or hidden agenda, that I can see. You should post like this more often.
    Thanks man, I'm trying but some of these trolls (3ball/super duper, Kenny, Deronzan m8) make me.

    But I'm trying to be a better man now

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    Default Re: Why ______ is the best player and MVP of the league in 2019

    Excellent post

    It's definitely Giannis although the media loves Harden enough to pretend that he also has a strong argument, but the reality is that no one impacts the game on both ends like Giannis. If Bucks weren't blowing teams out (largely because Giannis puts them in position to blow teams out) he'd easily average more points. As it stands he averages 30 points per 36 minutes and that's while being arguably the best defender in the entire league

    He bested Harden in their first matchup, will be interesting seeing how the 2nd matchup goes

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