Kobe and LeBron were both 28-29 after 57 games at age 34...

[SouBeachTalents]

Kobe did more with less. Always known.

Injury excuse goes out the window the moment you look at the DL list and games missed for the Lakers that year.

Well, not always

[PickernRoller]

Carried the first team to the Finals.
Carried the second to the playoffs.

[superduper]

Well, not always

The only person not washed up in both pics (other than Kobe) is Shaq.

Good try I guess.

[PickernRoller]

The only person not washed up in both pics (other than Kobe) is Shaq.

Good try I guess.

Has to deflect from the fact that Bran had two young 20 ppg players, activated playoff mode, and still got eliminated from playoff contention 5 games after the all-star break. He didn't even fight for a down the stretch run. It was over that quick.

[stalkerforlife]

Too easy

[sdot_thadon]

Kobe finished 45-37.

Bran activated playoff mode and went 37-45.

Can't wait for the excuses...

Of those 57 games Kobe played them all and Lebron missed 18 of them, what's Kobe's excuse for having the same record to that point anyway??

[ImKobe]

Of those 57 games Kobe played them all and Lebron missed 18 of them, what's Kobe's excuse for having the same record to that point anyway??

Pretend that Nash, Gasol and Blake didn't sustain significant injuries during the first 57 games that left Kobe with Howard (coming off a back surgery) and a bunch of D-leaguers.

Lakers were down to their 3rd string PG 7 games into the season and played about 20 straight games with both Blake and Nash out, including Gasol getting injured during that same stretch.

[RRR3]

Pretend that Nash, Gasol and Blake didn't sustain significant injuries during the first 57 games that left Kobe with Howard (coming off a back surgery) and a bunch of D-leaguers.

Lakers were down to their 3rd string PG 7 games into the season and played about 20 straight games with both Blake and Nash out, including Gasol getting injured during that same stretch.

2013 Howard is significantly better than anyone LeBron had last year.

[Mr Feeny]

Pretend that Nash, Gasol and Blake didn't sustain significant injuries during the first 57 games that left Kobe with Howard (coming off a back surgery) and a bunch of D-leaguers.

Lakers were down to their 3rd string PG 7 games into the season and played about 20 straight games with both Blake and Nash out, including Gasol getting injured during that same stretch.

Wtf is this crap? Lebron played with d leaguers. Kobe playing with Dwifht and Artest should he easy. They should have comfortably made the playoffs and only failed to do so because Kobe couldnt get the job done.

[superduper]

2013 Howard is significantly better than anyone LeBron had last year.

Until he refused to run PnRs with Steve motha****in Nash

[ImKobe]

2013 Howard is significantly better than anyone LeBron had last year.

2013 Howard cost us a bunch of close games early in the season and also missed like 5-6 games in the first 57 so there's that.

Wtf is this crap? Lebron played with d leaguers. Kobe playing with Dwifht and Artest should he easy. They should have comfortably made the playoffs and only failed to do so because Kobe couldnt get the job done.

Act like Dwight and Artest were anywhere near their primes in 2013. Lakers were playing a 8-9 man rotation with two D-leaguers starting in January..

[RRR3]

Dwight’s peak was 2011 but yeah he wasn’t anywhere near his prime in 2013. Mamba logic.

[sdot_thadon]

Pretend that Nash, Gasol and Blake didn't sustain significant injuries during the first 57 games that left Kobe with Howard (coming off a back surgery) and a bunch of D-leaguers.

Lakers were down to their 3rd string PG 7 games into the season and played about 20 straight games with both Blake and Nash out, including Gasol getting injured during that same stretch.

and of those 57 games:

rondo missed 34
lonzo missed 10
Ingram missed 11
lebron missed 18

even kuzma the most dependable guy along with kcp missed 4 games of the 1st 57. And this doesn't even scratch the surface of all the games missed after the 1st 57 games by this team. Kobe didn't have a team full of kids and d leaguers. And he was available every one of those 57 games.

[ImKobe]

and of those 57 games:

rondo missed 34
lonzo missed 10
Ingram missed 11
lebron missed 18

even kuzma the most dependable guy along with kcp missed 4 games of the 1st 57. And this doesn't even scratch the surface of all the games missed after the 1st 57 games by this team. Kobe didn't have a team full of kids and d leaguers. And he was available every one of those 57 games.

false, roster was rather inexperienced and full of d-leaguers outside of the projected starting line-up + Jamison. Darius Morris was starting at PG by the 8th game of the season and guys like Earl Clark and Jodie Meeks were constantly starting as well.

2018-19 Lakers had a deep roster, guys like Kuzma, Zubac and McGee played really well during the first half of the season and our defense was damn near elite when Lonzo was healthy, Lakers started off terribly in 2018 as well with everyone healthy while Nash and Blake were already both injured 7 games in.

in the first 57 games,

Nash missed 24 games
Blake missed 37 games
Gasol missed 21 games
Howard missed 6 games

what makes it worse is that Blake and Nash were both injured at the same time for about 20 straight games and guys like Chris Duhon and Darius Morris were getting starting minutes, as well as Earl Clark, not to mention that our FO fired our coach 5 games into the season and we had to implement a new system with our two key players injured at the same time.

[sdot_thadon]

false, roster was rather inexperienced and full of d-leaguers outside of the projected starting line-up + Jamison. Darius Morris was starting at PG by the 8th game of the season and guys like Earl Clark and Jodie Meeks were constantly starting as well.

2018-19 Lakers had a deep roster, guys like Kuzma, Zubac and McGee played really well during the first half of the season and our defense was damn near elite when Lonzo was healthy, Lakers started off terribly in 2018 as well with everyone healthy while Nash and Blake were already both injured 7 games in.

in the first 57 games,

Nash missed 24 games
Blake missed 37 games
Gasol missed 21 games
Howard missed 6 games

what makes it worse is that Blake and Nash were both injured at the same time for about 20 straight games and guys like Chris Duhon and Darius Morris were getting starting minutes, as well as Earl Clark, not to mention that our FO fired our coach 5 games into the season and we had to implement a new system with our two key players injured at the same time.

That's all good kobe never had more than d league guys even when he had Shaq apparently.

Thats all just window dressing though, my real question is if Kobe played all of the 57 games and Lebron missed 18 of his, why in the hell did Kobe have the same exact record through 57 games? You do realize if Lebron actually played all those games they'd have a much better record right?