Stats that prove Jordan the goat, BY FAR

[3ball]

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[COLOR="Navy"]Players who were scoring champs AND 1st team all-defense:[/COLOR]


Michael Jordan:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998[/COLOR]
Kobe Bryant:[COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]2006, 2007[/COLOR]
Kareem Jabbar:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"][COLOR="Red"]1971[/COLOR][/COLOR]




[COLOR="navy"]Players who were scoring champs AND won championship[/COLOR]:


Michael Jordan:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998[/COLOR]
Shaquille O'Neal:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]2000[/COLOR]
Kareem Jabbar:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]1971[/COLOR]




[COLOR="Navy"]Players who led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their career:[/COLOR]


Michael Jordan*


* led team in scoring by at least 10 ppg for every series, except two, where he led by 7 ppg and 5 ppg
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[SouBeachTalents]

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[3ball]

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Kareem and Kobe were scoring champs and 1st team all-defense THREE TIMES TOTAL between them.. Jordan did it NINE TIMES, so he's the greatest 2-way player of all-time - it's not even close.

Kareem and Shaq were scoring champ while winning the championship ONE TIME EACH.

Jordan did it SIX TIMES... No one is close..

Of course, Jordan is the only player that led his team in scoring for every playoff series of his career... And he did it by 10 ppg...

[Achilleas]

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[3ball]

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Not at all - those are some amazing stats that clearly show the different level Jordan was on.

Again - Jordan is the only player that led his team in scoring for every playoff series of his career... And he did it by 10 ppg...

Jordan was on another level/dimension from all other players.

[AirBonner]

Too bad he is not as good as wade at blocking

[LAZERUSS]

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And in '94, the Bulls replaced MJ with Pete Myers, and were an injury-riddled lot...that went 55-27 and were a blown call away from going to the ECF's (in a series in which Myers averaged 7 ppg.) And had Pippen and Grant not missed a combined 22 games, they would have easily won 60+ games, and had HCA throughout the playoffs...which ultimately would have been enough to win it all.

MJ played with by FAR, the most stacked rosters in his title runs...in a watered down NBA in which most teams were lucky to have two great players, and most had no more than one.

[AirBonner]

And in '94, the Bulls replaced MJ with Pete Myers, and were an injury-riddled lot...that went 55-27 and were a blown call away from going to the ECF's (in a series in which Myers averaged 7 ppg.) And had Pippen and Grant not missed a combined 22 games, they would have easily won 60+ games, and had HCA throughout the playoffs...which ultimately would have been enough to win it all.

MJ played with by FAR, the most stacked rosters in his title runs...in a watered down NBA in which most teams were lucky to have two great players, and most had no more than one.

3ball going to say how weak the supporting cast is

[LAZERUSS]

3ball going to say how weak the supporting cast is

Pretty hard to argue against a supporting cast that had to replace MJ at the last minute with a journeyman D-League quality player,...and then went an injury-decimated 55-27, and were robbed in the ECSF's...in a seven game series in which Myers averaged 7 ppg.

[beastee]

3Ball is so in all your heads. It is INCREDIBLE. He doesn't even need to post stats, everyone with half a functioning brain knows Jordan is the GOAT, but he consistently gets you all rattled all day, everyday.

[AirBonner]

Pretty hard to argue against a supporting cast that had to replace MJ at the last minute with a journeyman D-League quality player,...and then went an injury-decimated 55-27, and were robbed in the ECSF's...in a seven game series in which Myers averaged 7 ppg.

Oh I agree. I think its obvious 3ball has this conversation already planned out on a spreadsheet

[LAZERUSS]

BY FAR the most STACKED rosters in the league in the ENTIRE 90's, and that was PROVEN by a an injury-riddled team that went 55-27 and were a blown call away from winning a title...all with MJ's replacement being the equivalent of a D-Leaguer.

Indisputable.

[3ball]

Bulls went 55-27 and were a blown call away from [COLOR="Red"]winning a title[/COLOR]

The Bulls were nowhere near winning the championship 1994 - they lost in the 2nd Round, where Kukoc's miracle walk-off (above) prevented them from going down 0-3 and getting swept - despite this luck, they still lost and were 2nd Round losers.

Also, the 1994 Bulls would've lost to the Cavs in the 1st round, but the Cavs were missing their entire starting frontcourt: all-star Larry Nance, all-star Brad Daughtery, and Hot Rod Williams 12/8 with 2.3 blocks... Even though the Cavs were missing their 2 all-stars and 60% of their starting lineup, every game was a single-digit affair because the Bulls didn't have Jordan.

[LAZERUSS]

The Bulls were nowhere near winning the championship 1994 - they lost in the 2nd Round, where Kukoc's miracle walk-off (above) prevented them from going down 0-3 and getting swept - despite this luck, they still lost and were 2nd Round losers.

Also, the 1994 Bulls would've lost to the Cavs in the 1st round, but the Cavs were missing their entire starting frontcourt: all-star Larry Nance, all-star Brad Daughtery, and Hot Rod Williams 12/8 with 2.3 blocks... Even though the Cavs were missing their 2 all-stars and 60% of their starting lineup, every game was a single-digit affair because the Bulls didn't have Jordan.

Had Pippen and Grant not missed 22 games between them...easily a 60+ win team that would have had HCA all the way thru the Finals. Oh, and as it was...they went 5-0 in the playoffs with HCA.

Easily a championship team without Jordan...and with the great Pete Myers in his place.

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[3ball]

Oh I agree.

If the Bulls had significant talent after Jordan and Pippen, then why did the the team need Jordan to score the highest proportion of team points ever, which included at least 10 ppg more than Pippen for every playoff series of their careers?.. Do you realize that no all-time great has led his team in scoring for every playoff series of their careers, let alone by 10 ppg?

No one was required to lead their team in scoring by THAT MUCH, or anywhere NEAR that much.

In addition to Jordan's goat scoring load, the team also required him to lead in [COLOR="DarkRed"]passing[/COLOR] (Jordan led Bulls in assist % for both 3-peats).

Jordan's goat scoring, team-leading passing, and 1st team all-defense represents the largest load ever carried by any player.