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Old 12-06-2006, 11:40 PM   #16
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Just look at it this way:

Phoenix with Dwight Howard
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Orlando with STAT

Howard wins hands down.

Not that i'm totally disagreeing with you, but Amare in Orlando would definitely have better stats and a bigger impact than Amare in Phoenix. I mean honestly, in Orlando, Dwight Howard is averaging 17 points and 13 rebounds and leading in BOTH categories. The next closest rebounder after him, after doing some research, is TONY BATTIE with a little over 5 per game.
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:00 AM   #17
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Not that i'm totally disagreeing with you, but Amare in Orlando would definitely have better stats and a bigger impact than Amare in Phoenix. I mean honestly, in Orlando, Dwight Howard is averaging 17 points and 13 rebounds and leading in BOTH categories. The next closest rebounder after him, after doing some research, is TONY BATTIE with a little over 5 per game.

Let me ask you something... if Orlando is such a terrible rebounding team because their second best rebounder is averaging 5 per, why is Orlando #4 in the league in outrebounding their opponents on a nightly basis? Either they're a better rebounding team than you want to give them credit for, or you're severely underrating Dwight Howard's rebounding. Amare would MAYBE put up 10 per in Orlando. Not 13.5 like Dwight. Dwight is without a doubt the best rebounder in the world. If he didn't have that he'd be nothing. But he does have it.

Phoenix is #23 in the league at outrebounding their opponents. In other words... they suck ass on the glass.

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Old 12-07-2006, 12:49 AM   #18
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Let me ask you something... if Orlando is such a terrible rebounding team because their second best rebounder is averaging 5 per, why is Orlando #4 in the league in outrebounding their opponents on a nightly basis? Either they're a better rebounding team than you want to give them credit for, or you're severely underrating Dwight Howard's rebounding. Amare would MAYBE put up 10 per in Orlando. Not 13.5 like Dwight. Dwight is without a doubt the best rebounder in the world. If he didn't have that he'd be nothing. But he does have it.

Phoenix is #23 in the league at outrebounding their opponents. In other words... they suck ass on the glass.

If you read through all the posts on this thread, nobody is underrating Dwight but everyone is underrating Amare. The point was not to say that Howard isn't a good rebounder, it was to say that Amare would be getting more rebounds than he gets in Phoenix and probably more points as well because if the leading scorer is averaging 17 points a game, well, that tells you something. Also, Orlando is #4 in outrebounding there opponents, but that's definitely a word play. They're #16 in rebounds per game.
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If you read through all the posts on this thread, nobody is underrating Dwight but everyone is underrating Amare. The point was not to say that Howard isn't a good rebounder, it was to say that Amare would be getting more rebounds than he gets in Phoenix and probably more points as well because if the leading scorer is averaging 17 points a game, well, that tells you something. Also, Orlando is #4 in outrebounding there opponents, but that's definitely a word play. They're #16 in rebounds per game.

It's not a word play. Rebounds per game for an entire team is more about the pace of their play rather than their actual skill level at rebounding. Rebounding differential is what's important.

If Dwight was in Phoenix's system he'd probably be averaging 15+ rpg right now.
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Either they're a better rebounding team than you want to give them credit for, or you're severely underrating Dwight Howard's rebounding. Amare would MAYBE put up 10 per in Orlando.

Amare's averaging 10 rebounds a game since he's been starting.

And the KG comparison doesn't make sense. KG has a high-post game and passes extremely well. Amare is a scorer through-and-through, (though his rebuonding's much improved) and is probably the best big man at finishing around the basket. They play the same position but have different skill-sets and approach the game a different way.

Howard's a better 2-way player right now. But no one knows if we'll see 37-10 Amare again or if he'll stay at 16-8. Amare is potentially better then almost anyone in the league.
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It's not a word play. Rebounds per game for an entire team is more about the pace of their play rather than their actual skill level at rebounding. Rebounding differential is what's important.

If Dwight was in Phoenix's system he'd probably be averaging 15+ rpg right now.

As good as D.Howard is, you can't just assume that somebody, especially a bigman that's played his whole nba career in a half-court system, is automatically gonna fit into a run and gun style of play. My point is that if he were to play in Phoenix, #1, he wouldn't get as many minutes, #2, he wouldn't be the leading scorer on the team, meaning that he would have to adjust to an uptempo offense in which he isn't the main focal point. I wouldn't guarantee a 15+ rpg average were he to join the team without considering these factors.
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now since the howard bosh comparisons are finally dead (thank god) howard wins this one to.

Give Dwight Steve Nash and it's over
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