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    Default Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    2009 - huge -550 favorite vs Magic, who were missing their all-star PG

    2010 - huge -250 favorite again, but lost 2-1 lead after checking out of series

    2011 -

    2014 - faced old dudes with even odds, but lost by record blowout

    2017 - prime Kyrie averaged 29 in the Finals, but Love was marginalized and the team was massively out-assisted

    2005 - missed playoffs despite having the East all-star center and a 14/10 PF

    2013 - all but lost the series despite better talent and favorite status, but RayRay saved his legacy

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    Which series did Jordan have comparable talent to the 2007 Cavs, and made the Finals?

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    Which series did Jordan lead everyone in everything?

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dray n Klay
    Which series did Jordan have comparable talent to the 2007 Cavs, and made the Finals?
    He would've made it every year if his toughest Eastern comp was the 07' Pistons

    The only teams MJ lost to were the goat celtics, goat pistons, and the peak Shaq/Penny Magic (when the bulls had no chemistry and MJ was rusty)... Oh, and the best bucks team ever in mj's rookie year

    That's it - MJ beat every other team, including teams better and more talented than the 07' Pistons, like the 89' Cavs

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    He would've made it every year if his toughest Eastern comp was the 07' Pistons

    The only teams MJ lost to were the goat celtics, goat pistons, and the peak Shaq/Penny Magic (when the bulls had no chemistry and MJ was rusty)... Oh, and the best bucks team ever in mj's rookie year

    That's it - MJ beat every other team, including many teams better and more liades than the 07' Pistons, like the 89' Cavs
    Jordan lost in the ECF and 2nd round with an all star teammate in 1990 and 1995

    LeBron won a championship without another all star teammate in 2016


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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    2Ball why do you talk so much about LeBron?

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vino24
    Which series did Jordan lead everyone in everything?
    Which series did MJ lose with comparable talent or odds to the opponent like Lebron did many times? That's the thread topic


    Quote Originally Posted by Vino24

    Which series did Jordan lead everyone in everything?
    You mean which series was MJ westbrooking or harden'ing?.. where the opponent's top 3 defenders were either hurt or suspended? (Dray/Iggy/Bogut)

    MJ didn't get lucky like that.. neither Kobe

    but even though lebron caught breaks to win by westbrooking in 16', this style normally led to his teams being the "clippers of the Finals" (mostly doormats in the Finals and getting destroyed)

    And which series did Lebron average 40, or win a Finals averaging 10-20 more than his 2nd option (winning as a 1-man show on offense)?

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Which series did MJ lose with comparable talent or odds to the opponent like Lebron did many times? That's the thread topic



    You mean which series was MJ westbrooking or harden'ing?.. where the opponent's top 3 defenders were either hurt or suspended? (Dray/Iggy/Bogut)

    MJ didn't get lucky like that.. neither Kobe

    but even though lebron caught breaks to win by westbrooking in 16', this style normally led to his teams being the "clippers of the Finals" (mostly doormats in the Finals and getting destroyed)

    And which series did Lebron average 40, or win a Finals averaging 10-20 more than his 2nd option (winning as a 1-man show on offense)?
    How was LeBron Westbrooking in 2016? no wonder you are banned from every forum.

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vino24
    2Ball why do you talk so much about LeBron?
    I said I would rub it in if he missed the playoffs.. so I've been doing that

    And i'll retire as a regular poster if the Raps win.. I'll be like oldschool and post a few times a year

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    Which series did Jordan have comparable talent to the 2007 Cavs, and made the Finals?

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    Which series did Jordan have comparable talent to the 2007 Cavs, and made the Finals?
    Which year did MJ play such weak comp to make a Finals as lebron's 07'?

    You answer mine or the thread topic and I'll answer yours

    Or you can answer this one - which series did Lebron average 40, or win a Finals averaging 10-20 more than his 2nd option (winning as a 1-man show on offense)?

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    Why did Jordan lose in the 1st round 3 times and win fewer playoff series in the same #of playoff runs as LeBron (13 to 13)

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
    Why did Jordan lose in the 1st round 3 times and win fewer playoff series in the same #of playoff runs as LeBron (13 to 13)
    No one would criticize if Lebron's 8 seeded Lakers lost to the 1 seeded Warriors - 8 vs 1 losses are never criticized because it's the worst odds in sports

    Infact, it's a boost to MJ's legacy and mystique that most of his losses happened with the worst odds - you'd expect that of the goat

    Furthermore, nearly all young stars miss the playoffs in their first few years like Durant, Giannis, Curry, Lebron, Kyrie, etc, etc, etc... So mj did better then them by making the playoffs - if MJ was missing the playoffs and the team missed that experience, it would've taken the Bulls longer to build a champion

    And he won fewer playoff series because he had to play the goat celtics in the first round, while lebron played the 40-win, Arenas Wizards

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    3ball, do you have a job and what is it? And yes I realize this is an alien subject in your Bran/Ordan obsession, but please answer.

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    Default Re: Which series did Lebron have comparable talent, but lost to superior teamwork/BoB?

    This dude is legit counting series LeBron won as losses

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