Alex English's 8 year run (1982 - 1989) - 27.3 PPG

[JellyBean]

Pretty impressive considering how little he gets mentioned when it comes to all time great scorers. 27.3 PPG over an 8 year stretch where he shot .512% and made 8 straight all star games.

Thank you! Man, folks are always overlooking Alex English and his ability to score. The dude had a decade long scoring spree. Darn that Holy Trilogy (Magic/Larry/MJ). He scored more points in the 80s than anyone. Glad that people still remember this great player.

[SHAQisGOAT]

True, not Bird, not Jordan, not Moses, not Dantley, not Kareem, not Nique...
Not many know that though.

English wasn't very flashy - on and off the court - and he played in Dever... So, nowadays, he gets overlooked plenty.

He played for those run-n-gun teams, yea, but Alex was a certified baller nonetheless... Dude had a sick close-range game with those leaners/floaters, he was tall, lanky and mobile with long arms and that catapult jumper, one of the greatest scorers of all-time, could pass the rock, rebounded some and even played some off-ball D...
And he led plenty of "successful" teams while doing his thing in the Playoffs.

They gave up 130.8 point per game in 90/91. They had the worst record in the NBA and their SRS was -10.31. The next worst team in the league was -6.27. They didn't do it because they were so good. They did it because they were bad and wanted to at least be exciting.

Michael Adams avg 26.5ppg on .394 shooting. Orlando Woolridge avg > 25/ the year after he came off the bench for the LAL and avg <10ppg. This squad is why we need to look at per100 avgs rather than per game avgs.

That was when English was already gone and those weren't Doug Moe's Nuggets, rather with Paul Westhead at the helm... 1991 Denver was straight up SHITTY, even on offense; one of the worst defensive teams ever, one of the worst teams ever, period.

When Doug was coaching they were an up-tempo team yea, almost always #1 in terms of pace BUT they also played nice D after the mid-80's, and had some pretty good defensive players like Hanzlik, TR Dunn, Fat Lever... They finished as high as 6th in DRtg.

[NugzFan]

This is why 80's and 90's stats are inflated.

No one has heard of this dude.

Your posts say far more about you than it does about English.

[La Frescobaldi]

Your posts say far more about you than it does about English.

Like he wasn't born yet when Jordan retired from Wizards

[Sakkreth]

Best English player ever ?

[Hammertime]

As mentioned, the Nuggets made the Conference Finals in 1985. In 14 games, English averaged 30.2 PPG, 4.5 APG, 6.6 RPG, and 1.2 SPG. He shot 54% from the field and 89% from the line. You know how many players managed to put up 30-4-5 on 50% shooting while playing more than 10 games in the playoffs since then? Three. Dudes named Michael, LeBron, and Hakeem.

[KnittingRyu]

English would get Kobe treatment with the modern expectations of the NBA.

[La Frescobaldi]

Alex was the kevin urant of his day tbh.

[Hey Yo]

Great point. His teams weren't high seeds but at least they were competitive during his run, which makes his numbers more impressive than if he had been playing for a perrenial loser putting up empty stats. Denver by 1991 was a 20-62 team.

They were an 8th seed in 1987 with a 37-45 record and got swept in the 1st round. English avg. 18.7ppg , 4.7trb and 3.3ast in that series. His points and assists were down compared to the reg. season of 25ppg, 4.7trb and 4.7ast.

Plus they were bounced in the first round like 3 other times. I wouldn't say they were that competitive from 82-89.

[SHAQisGOAT]

They were an 8th seed in 1987 with a 37-45 record and got swept in the 1st round. English avg. 18.7ppg , 4.7trb and 3.3ast in that series. His points and assists were down compared to the reg. season of 25ppg, 4.7trb and 4.7ast.

Plus they were bounced in the first round like 3 other times. I wouldn't say they were that competitive from 82-89.

And in 1988 they were a 2nd seed with a 54-28 record, losing 4-2 in the Semifinals to a Dallas team that took the eventual champs(LA) to 7 games, with Alex averaging very similar numbers to his regular-season ones, for the series...


They had a down year in 1987 (one of their worst) but they were for the most part a pretty competitive team from 1981-82 until 1988-89, with English as their main-man...
They reached 50+W's twice, they always made it to the post-season, they were 4 times in the Semifinals, and once made it into the Conference Finals losing to the eventual champions, the Lakers... With Alex putting up 30.2/6.6/4.5/1.2/0.4 on .601 TS%, for that post-season run.

[feyki]

Your posts say far more about you than it does about English.

Best scorer of 80's with Dantley .

[Hey Yo]

And in 1988 they were a 2nd seed with a 54-28 record, losing 4-2 in the Semifinals to a Dallas team that took the eventual champs(LA) to 7 games, with Alex averaging very similar numbers to his regular-season ones, for the series...


They had a down year in 1987 (one of their worst) but they were for the most part a pretty competitive team from 1981-82 until 1988-89, with English as their main-man...
They reached 50+W's twice, they always made it to the post-season, they were 4 times in the Semifinals, and once made it into the Conference Finals losing to the eventual champions, the Lakers... With Alex putting up 30.2/6.6/4.5/1.2/0.4 on .601 TS%, for that post-season run.

Just saying that they weren't as competitive as made out to be in this thread. Their good and bad evens it out to be an avg. competitive team over that span.

That drop in points and assists by English from reg season to playoffs in 87 is pretty significant.......at least it's said to be when done by other players.

[ProfessorMurder]

They were an 8th seed in 1987 with a 37-45 record and got swept in the 1st round. English avg. 18.7ppg , 4.7trb and 3.3ast in that series. His points and assists were down compared to the reg. season of 25ppg, 4.7trb and 4.7ast.

Plus they were bounced in the first round like 3 other times. I wouldn't say they were that competitive from 82-89.

His stats went down while playing the 87 Lakers... isn't that par for the course with any medium caliber team playing against an all time great team?

[SHAQisGOAT]

Just saying that they weren't as competitive as made out to be in this thread. Their good and bad evens it out to be an avg. competitive team over that span.

That drop in points and assists by English from reg season to playoffs in 87 is pretty significant.......at least it's said to be when done by other players.

They weren't a top contender or anything but they certainly were one of the most competitive franchises during the most competitive era ever, even if they played in the weaker Western Conference.
And just before the 1986-87 season, Calvin Natt who was one of their most important players, got injured, pretty much ending his career.

Huh... English averaged 21.5/5.5/3.6 on 50.7/83.2 in 31.9 MPG for his career in the regular-season, and 24.4/5.5/4.3 on 50.3/86.2 in 35.7 MPG for his career in the post-season...
Most players' stats decrease in the Playoffs, Alex actually maintained or even raised his numbers, even going by per36.

So, you're giving him hell due to him being worse in ONE Playoffs series vs one of the GOAT teams? While being guarded by Worthy and Cooper... With a vastly inferior team...

And one more thing, next time you check them stats NOTICE the minutes per game, because English's 18.7 PPG, vs the Lakers in that 1987 1st round, came in 25.3 MPG, because the Nuggets kepting getting blown-out, as expected.

[warriorfan]

Just saying that they weren't as competitive as made out to be in this thread. Their good and bad evens it out to be an avg. competitive team over that span.

That drop in points and assists by English from reg season to playoffs in 87 is pretty significant.......at least it's said to be when done by other players.

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