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Re: Cavs without Lebron this series
Originally Posted by Nash
@tomhaberstroh: Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG
is this real life?
Calm the fvck down...EVERYBODY knows leBRONZE sucks, deal with it...he will never be a top 20 player ever....
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Serious playground baller
Re: Cavs without Lebron this series
or maybe it has nothing to do with how good Bron team was, and perhaps the players were worn down because the Warriors played superior optimal defense. They were ranked #1 defense at the beginning of season and finished #2 ranked defense.
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The Great Wall of Text
Re: Cavs without Lebron this series
Considering the onerous amount of minutes LeBron played in this series, that can be considered as a sample size--not to mention how sparse of time they have had to even develop a rhythmic flow to the offense, which can take some time to do when a team is accustomed to a single ball-dominant player.
Not trying to idealize his teammates as anything more talented than the role-players they are; it's just that they are underrated due to their offensive role being mostly emasculated in a LeBron-centric offense.
It is incumbent on leadership to put their followership in a position to succeed; in this case, LeBron and Blatt are both culpable for that--LeBron for oftentimes superseding Blatt's order, and Blatt renouncing his empowerment to systematize the offensive direction that is needed for his players to be more self-dependent. The offensive system in place is not putting the players in a position to succeed sans LeBron, which is inherently disbalancing for any team-oriented sport when any player is singularized as a be-all, end-all factor.
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Bad Username
Re: Cavs without Lebron this series
Originally Posted by Naero
Considering the onerous amount of minutes LeBron played in this series, that can be considered as a sample size--not to mention how sparse of time they have had to even develop a rhythmic flow to the offense, which can take some time to do when a team is accustomed to a single ball-dominant player.
Not trying to idealize his teammates as anything more talented than the role-players they are; it's just that they are underrated due to their offensive role being mostly emasculated in a LeBron-centric offense.
It is incumbent on leadership to put their followership in a position to succeed; in this case, LeBron and Blatt are both culpable for that--LeBron for oftentimes superseding Blatt's order, and Blatt renouncing his empowerment to systematize the offensive direction that is needed for his players to be more self-dependent. The offensive system in place is not putting the players in a position to succeed sans LeBron, which is inherently disbalancing for any team-oriented sport when any player is singularized as a be-all, end-all factor.
Because they didn't succeed, they automatically weren't put in a good position? People love using result-oriented shit narratives on these last two finals.
Matthew Dellavedova going against the best defense in the league, with Smith and Shumpert as sidekicks, will always end up so bad, it will never, ever even come close to looking like they could use an effective offensive system in that scenario.
No person on this forum would make any wager on that team ever doing anything more than atrociously bad against that team.
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Cavs without Lebron this series
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MH!
Re: Cavs without Lebron this series
Originally Posted by Naero
Considering the onerous amount of minutes LeBron played in this series, that can be considered as a sample size--not to mention how sparse of time they have had to even develop a rhythmic flow to the offense, which can take some time to do when a team is accustomed to a single ball-dominant player.
Not trying to idealize his teammates as anything more talented than the role-players they are; it's just that they are underrated due to their offensive role being mostly emasculated in a LeBron-centric offense.
It is incumbent on leadership to put their followership in a position to succeed; in this case, LeBron and Blatt are both culpable for that--LeBron for oftentimes superseding Blatt's order, and Blatt renouncing his empowerment to systematize the offensive direction that is needed for his players to be more self-dependent. The offensive system in place is not putting the players in a position to succeed sans LeBron, which is inherently disbalancing for any team-oriented sport when any player is singularized as a be-all, end-all factor.
3ball alt who likes to use big words.
Try watching the series, dumbass. Shump, JR, and Delly, their main players shot like shit. They missed WIDE open 3 pointers. Since you want to talk about running an offense, which would help his teammates, without LeBron, can you tell me who actually can run it? JR? Shump? Delly?
He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.
The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.
For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.
Again, those guys missed WIDE open shots. You might want to rewatch the series.
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Re: Cavs without Lebron this series
Originally Posted by 20Four
Calm the fvck down...EVERYBODY knows leBRONZE sucks, deal with it...he will never be a top 20 player ever....
Why not?
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