Myth or Not: Players today better than before???

[NumberSix]

Today is overall better. Whether or not the top tier guys are is a different discussion. Overall rosters are much better though. Guys who used to be starters in the league like John Starks wouldn't make a bench these days.

[CavaliersFTW]

Today is overall better. Whether or not the top tier guys are is a different discussion. Overall rosters are much better though. Guys who used to be starters in the league like John Starks wouldn't make a bench these days.

Right. In today's powerful NBA champion-team benches get rounded out by the likes of the mighty Brian Scalabrine. A more recent championship-team bench player like Joel Anthony (who actually STARTED for the Heat last season!) would actually be dominant in the 60's-90's. Up there with 80's bench centers like Bill Walton and Bob Lanier.

[NumberSix]

Bunch of scrubs apparently...

The point is that things progress. These days, a high school student knows more about science than Isaac Newton ever did. The current generation always has the advantage of all previous advancements.

[Flash31]

It would be a turnover and the crowd would boo the f*** outta him. You must understand rules were enforced differently back then. You had to dribble "palms down" - modern ball handlers appear "more skilled" due to today's incredibly slack ball handling rules, not necessarily due to any disparity in individual player skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDRQ0FYhC0U

It would be a turnover and the crowd would boo the f*** outta him. You must understand rules were enforced differently back then. You had to dribble "palms down" - modern ball handlers appear "more skilled" due to today's incredibly slack ball handling rules, not necessarily due to any disparity in individual player skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDRQ0FYhC0U

yep it would,Vince Carter would have been benched back then for "hotdogging and showing off"

Crawford would have got called for a travel every time,and Rondo would not get many assists at all and would be a role player defender because he can not shoot.

Back then assist were a catch and shoot automatically if you got the ball,you were not allowed to palm the ball and dribbling was strictly regulated,Defenses back then werent as complex as today but were more stringent and tougher man to man.And almost everybody ahd a mid range game or a post game.

Wilt Chamberlain didnt just score off of athleticism,he was the most skilled center ever,and whole teams gameplans were meant to stop him,today a center wreaks havoc even with the zone d,

Allen Iverson would not be able to compete back then bc his crossovers were called travels every time then,there was no 3 pt l;ine so teams had the paint and lane covered.

The stars just seem less athletic back then,but the rules were different back then so all these skilled dribblers today wouldnt have the moves they do but would be relegated to the old way of dribbling which would make it seem like they had less skill or were slower.Teams back then scored 120 pts on avg,people played heavy minutes,

Wilty,Russell were track stars and long jumpers.

Athleticism overshadows skill at times today,back then skill was the main key so iit seems they were worse.

Bench players are probably better today due to athleticism with refining a particular skill,but at the same time stars are stars and skill is skill .

[dh144498]

The point is that things progress. These days, a high school student knows more about science than Isaac Newton ever did. The current generation always has the advantage of all previous advancements.

that's an increase in known knowledge, doesn't mean people have better brains. Athleticism can advance due to modern medicine and drugs, but basketball IQ is something else.

[Leftimage]

Bunch of scrubs apparently...

Science as a tolerated field of study is 500 years old, which puts Einstein in the latest ''decade'' on an nba scale. He's the most brilliant dude on your list.

Caesar probably had the IQ of your average modern-day custodian. At the time this allowed him to excel.

[dh144498]

Science as a tolerated field of study is 500 years old, which puts Einstein in the latest ''decade'' on an nba scale. He's the most brilliant dude on your list.

Caesar probably had the IQ of your average modern-day custodian. At the time this allowed him to excel.

you know how?

[jzek]

'85-'95 had the best players in history - prime magic, bird, jordan, olajuwon, malone, pippen, etc.

[Leftimage]

you know how?

Reading history books + the power of deductive reasoning.

[NumberSix]

Science as a tolerated field of study is 500 years old, which puts Einstein in the latest ''decade'' on an nba scale. He's the most brilliant dude on your list.

Caesar probably had the IQ of your average modern-day custodian. At the time this allowed him to excel.

Debatable. His largest contribution was with large scale gravity, which his version of it for the most part isn't the one we subscribe to these days. His prediction of the relationship between speed and time was pretty fcuking genius though.

[Flash31]

The point is that things progress. These days, a high school student knows more about science than Isaac Newton ever did. The current generation always has the advantage of all previous advancements.

The point is that things progress. These days, a high school student knows more about science than Isaac Newton ever did. The current generation always has the advantage of all previous advancements.

A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT knows MORE about Science than Newton,BULL and SHT.

No A high school student does not know more about science than newton,

most of the principles bout science and theories and facts came from
Newton,Franklin,Edison,Bell

music notes and patterns and beat patterns came from the great composers of the past

Bethoven,Bach

all artists today base thier work on the past and have a blueprint and how things are from the past

Da Vinci,Monet,Raphael,Rembrandt,Picasso

buildings and sculptures and modern construction base their architecture on people and construction from the past



Without the blueprints and the foundations and the success of the past,the wORLD WOULD NOT ADVANCE AND WOULD NOT HAVE A POINT TO GO FROM.

yES AS A WHOLE MORE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THINGS TODAY THAN THEN,BUT AT THE SAME TIME
People today are still learning and finding about the things the past did and learning from it.

A high school student does not know more about science,art,construction than these predecessors,a doctorate in the field that has years of experience most likely does though.

[Leftimage]

'85-'95 had the best players in history - prime magic, bird, jordan, olajuwon, malone, pippen, etc.

That argument is not a stretch, but it's hard to determine because:

(the point I am making)

The average player today > the average player back then.

[CavaliersFTW]

Science as a tolerated field of study is 500 years old, which puts Einstein in the latest ''decade'' on an nba scale. He's the most brilliant dude on your list.

Caesar probably had the IQ of your average modern-day custodian. At the time this allowed him to excel.

That's a bust of Aristotle, not Julius Caesar fuckwit.

[Leftimage]

Debatable. His largest contribution was with large scale gravity, which his version of it for the most part isn't the one we subscribe to these days. His prediction of the relationship between speed and time was pretty fcuking genius though.

His field of study before he entered it was a shell of itself. It hardly existed. I think in terms of progress it's the greatest observable ''leapfrogging'' in the history of scientific study. (a relevantly young history since the catholic church had previously snuffed out great intellect).

[NumberSix]

music notes and patterns and beat patterns came from the great composers of the past

Bethoven,Bach

No. Pretty sure musical theory existed a long time before Beethoven or Bach came around.