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Old 08-20-2018, 01:21 AM   #46
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Default Re: Steph “The Closer” Curry got robbed of FMVP in 2015

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Old 08-20-2018, 01:27 AM   #47
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Default Re: Steph “The Closer” Curry got robbed of FMVP in 2015

Iggy +/- for the series was +21, Steph was +2

The warriors had a 105 ORTG for the series. Their offense didnt win them the series it was their defense (99DRTG). And Steph had nothing to do with their defensive dominance. They had the postseason defense since the 04 Pistons for a reason

With Curry without Iguodala: 99.0 ORtg, 107.1 DRtg (-8.1)
With Iguodala without Curry: 102.0 ORtg, 81.6 DRtg (+20.4)

With Curry, Draymond without Iguodala: 96.9 ORtg, 106.2 DRtg (-9.3)
With Iguodala without Curry, Draymond: 110.0 ORtg, 70.0 DRtg (+40.0)

With Curry, Thompson without Iguodala: 98.9 ORtg, 108.4 DRtg (-9.5)
With Iguodala without Curry, Thompson: 115.0 ORtg, 95.0 DRtg (+20.0)

With Curry, Bogut without Iguodala: 96.5 ORtg, 115.1 DRtg (-18.6)
With Iguodala without Curry, Bogut: 100.0 ORtg, 78.4 DRtg (+21.6)


Iggy was EASILY FMVP. He was the best defender in the series by far and the 2nd best offensive player on the Warriors by far. Steph was the best offensive player but crap on defense. Delly torched him in 2 games outplayed him in 2/5 games he started. Kyrie outplayed him on both ends in game 1. Iggy was the best player in more games than Steph and had a bigger impact
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Old 08-20-2018, 02:21 AM   #48
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Default Re: Steph “The Closer” Curry got robbed of FMVP in 2015

I am one of those Steph fans that didn't mind Iguodala winning FMVP in 2015. I didn't think FMVP was that important then and I think even less of it now.

Iguodala winning emphasized how the Warriors were an unselfish team. I am okay with it because it is a true narrative. If FMVP is going to be a narrative award then as long as it is consistent and represents a true narrative I am not going to mind. What I find offensive about it is how it keeps changing its criteria and is telling a false narrative.

If a true narrative was to have been presented by the award Curry MUST have one of the last three Warriors FMVPs. The last three for the Warriors going Iguodala, Durant, Curry would have been an accurate and consistent narrative.

If scoring was the criteria Iguodala should not have won in 2015 rather Curry or LeBron. If +/- or carrying a team is the criteria Durant should not have won in 2017 but instead Curry. Curry had strong arguments for all three Warriors triumphs. If the FMVP had gone to Curry three straight times it would be a more accurate chronicle than the story being told now by the award which is a joke.
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Old 08-20-2018, 11:26 AM   #49
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funny how the top 15 players every are mostly made up of historically great defenders ... odd

#1 - Michael Jordan ( one of the goat defenders )
#2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar ( one of the goat defenders )
#3 - Bill Russell ( GOAT defender )
#4 - Kobe Bryant ( one of the goat defenders )
#5 - Tim Duncan ( one of the goat defenders )
#6 - Shaquille O'neal ( great defender in his prime )
#7 - Hakeem Olajuwon ( one of the goat defenders ) [/b]
#8 - Magic Johnson ( poor defender/carried by stacked teams )
#9 - Larry Bird ( very good defender )
#10 - Wilt Chamberlain ( one of the goat defenders )

#11 - Lebron James ( poor defender/carried by colluded stacked teams )
[b]#12 - Kevin Durant ( great defender )
#12 - Oscar Robertson ( good defender )
#13 - Jerry West ( great defender )
#14 - Moses Malone ( good defender )
#15 - Kevin Garnett ( one of the goat defenders )


Dude is the most overrated defender of all time. Literally everyone ran a train on him. LeBron is probably 10 times the defender Brick was. No wonder Brick is a shitty defender by pretty much any statistical measure.

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not even close


and luckily kobe knew how to play defense to make up his slightly lower shooting %
Brick averaged 40.5% for his career in the Finals. LeBron averaged 39.8% in the '15 Finals. "Not even close"..

Brick played defense in the Finals?

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