Superstars who won championships with 0 all-star teammates..

[CuhGetsBucks]

All that is a given.

BUT,

Dirk, Duncan, Lebron.
Dirk, Duncan, Lebron.

He does not belong in that same breath, I'm sorry, you're not going to sell me on this.

Lol? He was on a higher All-NBA team than Dirk, and won an NBA championship in the 2003-2004 season. The fact of the matter is he had a bigger impact on the court than Dirk did. Basketball isn't just offense you're too caught up in scoring points.

[BigKAT]

Duncan and Lebron are far from beign 'all about scoring' points.
But any way, I'll ask you this then.

Where do you rank Ben Wallace, Lebron James, Dirk and Timmy all time?

[CuhGetsBucks]

Duncan and Lebron are far from beign 'all about scoring' points.
But any way, I'll ask you this then.

Where do you rank Ben Wallace, Lebron James, Dirk and Timmy all time?

A) Im talking about Ben Wallace and Dirk specifically

B) We're talking about Ben Wallace being a superstar in the season his team won the championship, the 2003-2004 season, all time rankings mean nothing in a specific season.


C) Ben Wallace was better than Dirk in 2003-2004 who you claim was a superstar, so what does that make Ben Wallace?

[BigKAT]

A) Im talking about Ben Wallace and Dirk specifically

B) We're talking about Ben Wallace being a superstar in the season his team won the championship, the 2003-2004 season, all time rankings mean nothing in a specific season.


C) Ben Wallace was better than Dirk in 2003-2004 who you claim was a superstar, so what does that make Ben Wallace?

A. Fair enough, I'll stop mentioning Tim and Lebron.
B. I need to watch more of him.
C. I'll get back to you on this after doing B.

Looking forward to seeing if I agree with you after that.
Any games you recommend, other than the obvious Finals and maybe ECF?

[CuhGetsBucks]

A. Fair enough, I'll stop mentioning Tim and Lebron.
B. I need to watch more of him.
C. I'll get back to you on this after doing B.

Looking forward to seeing if I agree with you after that.
Any games you recommend, other than the obvious Finals and maybe ECF?

I appreciate that.
They might be hard to find but I would watch
Pistons vs Knicks from that season in November
Pistons vs Lakers from that season in November
Pistons vs. Pacers from that season in April

[ArbitraryWater]

A) Im talking about Ben Wallace and Dirk specifically

B) We're talking about Ben Wallace being a superstar in the season his team won the championship, the 2003-2004 season, all time rankings mean nothing in a specific season.


C) Ben Wallace was better than Dirk in 2003-2004 who you claim was a superstar, so what does that make Ben Wallace?

no he wasnt

[ArbitraryWater]

Dirk led THE best offense EVER relative to league average (Ortg) in 2004, by a good margin, too

2004 Dallas Mavericks 9,2
2005 Phoenix Suns 8,4
1997 Chicago Bulls 7,7
2002 Dallas Mavericks 7,7
1998 Utah Jazz 7,7
1996 Chicago Bulls 7,6
1988 Boston Celtics 7,4
2007 Phoenix Suns 7,4
1982 Denver Nuggets 7,4
2004 Sacramento Kings 7,4
1992 Chicago Bulls 7,3
1987 Los Angeles Lakers 7,3

[Real14]

Why are the 16 cavs on the list? 91 Bulls not on the list either? Really???

[FireDavidKahn]

Superstar:

2004- Ben Wallace

[FireDavidKahn]

If Ben Wallace is considered a superstar than so is Rodman.