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Old 01-28-2017, 09:35 AM   #16
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Default Re: Harden needs a 3-point line and ticky-tack ft's to have good TS

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The one move that really pisses me off with harden is when he calls for a high screen and just runs into the defender, or finds an underhook to just chuck an airball three and get 3 FTs out of it..I don't watch every rocket game but I remember an announcer saying he gets that call 2-3 times a game. That's a guaranteed 6+ ppg on super efficiency that he shouldnt be getting. I honestly wanna see somebody just floor his ass for having that bullshit be such a consistent part of his arsenal lol
Don't reach Youngblood.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:37 AM   #17
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3ball feeling threatened by a new target.

Jordan scored more points with a fraction of the time of possession, which enabled in the greatest teamwork and brand of basketball ever.

Like, do you think Harden would be able to get these stats in the triangle? (let's see how much you know about basketball)

So it's funny that you guys are impressed with Harden's stats, which are achieved via playground style, including a ridiculous 9.0 minutes time of possession (leads the league).

Let's see how his playground ball works in the playoffs - he'll get eliminated in the 1st Round despite having a high seeding.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:42 AM   #18
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Default Re: Harden needs a 3-point line and ticky-tack ft's to have good TS

And now Harden and Westbrook are a threat to MJ. You Jordan trolls are a bunch of crazy middle age folks.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:43 AM   #19
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Don't reach Youngblood.

defender doesnt even have to reach.
Harden will seek limbs out and apply bjj like hooks to trick refs into thinking he got hit.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:46 AM   #20
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Default Re: Harden needs a 3-point line and ticky-tack ft's to have good TS

Isn't it clear that today's spaced-out, high screen setup allows the same kind of otherworldly stats that we saw in the 50's and 60's?

It's obvious that we've come full circle.

Again - if Jordan tripled his time of possession to Harden's level, and ran high screen-rolls on a spaced-out court for every possession, he'd be the first 40 ppg and 10 apg player ever.. I honestly don't think 50 ppg is impossible.
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:02 AM   #21
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agreed with OP. Harden makes a mockery of the game and is nowhere near Jordan or Kobe
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:19 AM   #22
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Isn't it clear that today's spaced-out, high screen setup allows the same kind of otherworldly stats that we saw in the 50's and 60's?.

Looks like it. Who would have thought?

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Again - if Jordan tripled his time of possession to Harden's level, and ran high screen-rolls on a spaced-out court for every possession, he'd be the first 40 ppg and 10 apg player ever.. I honestly don't think 50 ppg is impossible.

He is the best ever. Harden and Westbrook obviously aren't on Jordan's level, but I think this season they are on Curry/Durant level in terms of impact.
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:54 AM   #23
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Default Re: Harden needs a 3-point line and ticky-tack ft's to have good TS

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Otherwise, he's actually NOT a good shot-maker - to shoot 60% true shooting WITHOUT threes or weak FT's, he'd need ability to do stuff like this:






Or this:






Harden doesn't have this dimension of shot-making ability, so it's a good thing the NBA has a gimmick like the 3-point line to give him an extra point on shots..

and let's not forget today's spread court, high screen setup that allows ballhandlers to waltz down a wide open lane whenever they want, and be defended by BIGS on the perimeter.

I don't respect his game, other than a being a good playground chucker.

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Find better gifs next time, those are NOT difficult shots, James Harden can easily pump fake and finish around mud footed sloths/
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:03 AM   #24
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Default Re: Harden needs a 3-point line and ticky-tack ft's to have good TS

You know James Harden is doing something right when 3Ball starts to discredit him on threads.

If anything,
This thread is the biggest Harden Endorsement on this forum so far.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:45 PM   #25
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It doesn't matter how he is doing it...it is that he is doing it.

While I do think that Rockets team around him is better than some...and clearly playing Harden in this role is optimal for him as a player given the rules of the NBA now...

That doesn't change the fact that what he's doing is absurd.

It would be absurd if it was just him producing like this...but to be producing like this and have this Rockets team 20 games over .500 at 50 games into the season is remarkable.

They have the 2nd best offense in the league. The 3rd SRS...

These accomplishments are incredible and this season blows out of the water what Nash did on the Suns. Yes...Nash was more likable and didn't game the system like this, but that doesn't change the impact of Harden this year.

And I don't even like Harden...thought he was over-rated.
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Old 01-28-2017, 12:52 PM   #26
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You know James Harden is doing something right when 3Ball starts to discredit him on threads.

If anything,
This thread is the biggest Harden Endorsement on this forum so far.
This
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:12 PM   #27
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No one knows how the players of today would adapt to the rules of yesteryear.



Could be even more dominant
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:28 PM   #28
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Default Re: Harden needs a 3-point line and ticky-tack ft's to have good TS

God forbid a guy is having an incredible season. 3ball has to everything in his power to discredit it and prop up MJ.
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:29 PM   #29
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The insecurity you have is pathetic...and more than a little creepy.
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:38 PM   #30
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Ordan would be no better than Derozan in today's league
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