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RENT FREE
Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by G0ATbe
I'm not gonna sit here and debate with inferior Jordan fans. Why get into a debate when I know I've already won?
Loser talk
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Wilt Davis
Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by Lebronxrings
not trying to troll but derozan is basically MJ +/- 2 points. Obviously Jordan looked great back then, but harden is clearly superior, come on.
Not trying to feed the troll (is there anything else on ISH?), but I'd add +/- 6 FMVPs to that.
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Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by Dray n Klay
3 point shooting Harden > Jordan
Driving to the basket (Eurostep) Harden > Jordan
Playmaking Harden > Jordan
Rebounding Jordan > Harden
Defense Jordan > Harden
Ball Handling Harden > Jordan
So Jordan is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, big woop
I'm sure Tony Allen is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, and I doubt anyone considers Tony Allen better than Harden.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
the lack of jordan knowledge on this board by the next generation really blows my mind.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by Dray n Klay
the fact that he can't shoot 3's would hurt him in this era
Today's wings don't need to be good shooters to be top scorers - Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency!
But they're still the top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.
The spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he'd also have GOAT midrange efficiency, which would give him a massive advantage over his aforementioned, non-shooting peers.
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Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by 3ball
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Gif-ted
Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Wouldn't even average 35 today
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Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by Dray n Klay
3 point shooting Harden > Jordan
Driving to the basket (Eurostep) Harden > Jordan
Playmaking Harden > Jordan
Rebounding Jordan > Harden
Defense Jordan > Harden
Ball Handling Harden > Jordan
So Jordan is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, big woop
I'm sure Tony Allen is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, and I doubt anyone considers Tony Allen better than Harden.
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LeMassiveunderdog
Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
he would average 29/6/6 on 45%
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by JebronLames
he would average 29 ppg on 45%
You think his stats would be the same as 1998 stats when he was 35 years old?... and when league-average PPG, pace, and ORtg was significantly lower than today's game?
Nah... 25 year old Jordan would do far better than that, especially with today's hands-off perimeter defense and a bunch of 3-point shooting teammates to spread the floor for him.
On a bad team, he'd get 40+.... On a good team, he'd get 30-35 depending on what the team needed to win.
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The triggerer
Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
Wouldn't even average 35 today
What an insult
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Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by 3ball
You think his stats would be the same as 1998 stats when he was 35 years old?... and when league-average PPG, pace, and ORtg was significantly lower than today's game?
Nah... 25 year old Jordan would do far better than that, especially with today's hands-off perimeter defense and a bunch of 3-point shooting teammates to spread the floor for him.
On a bad team, he'd get 40+.... On a good team, he'd get 30-35 depending on what the team needed to win.
No way he could get 30. He doesn't have Curry's 3 point ability to help him in this era. He would be more in the LeBron 25 ppg area since neither have the job shots to carry their scoring loads in the modern era.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by CP3PO
No way he could get 30. He doesn't have Curry's 3 point ability to help him in this era. He would be more in the LeBron 25 ppg area since neither have the job shots to carry their scoring loads in the modern era.
6'3" Westbrook led the league in scoring last season despite poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency.
Otoh, 6'6" Jordan had GOAT midrange efficiency - it was literally 12 percentage points higher than guys like Lebron and Westbrook:
JORDAN[COLOR="White"].......[/COLOR] 1997 MIDRANGE: 48.9%
WESTBROOK[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 2015 MIDRANGE: 36.9%
LEBRON[COLOR="White"].......[/COLOR] 2016 MIDRANGE: 36.5%
Players simply DON'T need to be good shooters to be top scorers in today's game - Lebron, Westbrook, Butler, Wade and Derozan have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency, but they're still the top scorers because today's spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.
The spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he had GOAT midrange efficiency, which would give him a massive advantage over his aforementioned, non-shooting peers.
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MJ & Kobe = GOAT
Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by Dr Hawk
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Jordan fanboys in a nutshell
Originally Posted by CP3PO
No way he could get 30. He doesn't have Curry's 3 point ability to help him in this era. He would be more in the LeBron 25 ppg area since neither have the job shots to carry their scoring loads in the modern era.
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