Bird an Bron at age 30

[Straight_Ballin]

Lebron was an 18 yrs.old rookie while Bird was 23 turning 24 in his first NBA Season. Let's compare LeBron's 6th and 7th season to Bird 6th and 7th season.

OP is dumber than a rock. Napakabobo mo.

So you are faulting Bird for going to college? No, let's compare them at the same age, because at that level of play age is significant. At 30 years old, Bron was a lesser player than Bird and it's not even debatable.

[colts19]

Let's compare their accomplishments

Bird is a 3x NBA MVP, and 2x Finals MVP

James is a 4x NBA MVP, and 2x Finals MVP

Damn I missed the part where James was competing against KAJ, Moses, Doctor J, Magic, Hakeem and Jordan for those MVP's.

[aj1987]

Bird Bron
28.1 25.3 points
9.2 6.4 rebounds
7.6 7.4 assist
52% 48% fg%
26.4 25.8 per

This is to everyone who forgot how damn good Bird was.

Since we're doing stats without any context, LeBron and Bird by age 30:

LeBron[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]Bird
24,913[COLOR="White"]......[/COLOR]15,508 Points
6,502[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]6,579 Rebounds
6,301[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3,900 Assists
1,553[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]1,169 Steals
724[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]541 Blocks
58%[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]56.5% TS
2x Rings[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3x Rings
2x FMVP[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]2x FMVP
4x MVP[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3x MVP
11x All-NBA[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]8x All-NBA
6x All-D[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3x All-D

[stalkerforlife]

Bran plays in the weakest conference in NBA history.

Bird played in the toughest conference and era in NBA history.

Bran colluded twice to build super teams that absolutely no team in the east could compete with.

[aj1987]

Bran plays in the weakest conference in NBA history.

Bird played in the toughest conference and era in NBA history.

Bran colluded twice to build super teams that absolutely no team in the east could compete with.

All that and still 9 spots higher than Chokebe on the all time list.

[mr4speed]

There were more opportunities for rebounds in the 80s.

It's debatable.

There is no debating who the greater playmaker is, though, LeBron is the best passing forward ever.

Bird didn't even win FMVP in his first title trip, meanwhile LeBron went back 2 back and if he ever wins another ring believe its going to be 3/3.

Bird not winning the 81 FMVP is a lame argument. He outplayed Maxwell for the series. Before you chime in on the "back to back" 8 point games routine, remember Maxwell's game 2 of 6 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists?
Bird was 15.3 pts, 15.3 reb and 7 assists for that series vs Maxwell's 17.7 pts, 9.5 reb, and 2.8 assists.
Lebron spends a lot more time playing the PG position than Bird ever did - so the assist total is going to favor Lebron. Bird did more with the ball in less time. Its apples and oranges, rules changes, and 30 years difference!

[Spurs m8]

whats the story behind that? lol we finally going to ban the people who derail threads with ***** size?

User -Ucan'tBandMe started a thread wondering why his thick pet name for LeBron wasn't included on his profile or some rubbish hahah Went on a spiel about users wanting to talk about thickness lol

[stalkerforlife]

All that and still 9 spots higher than Chokebe on the all time list.

I don't care about the BS propaganda.

You're the sheep and i'm the one laughing at you.

Real basketball aficionados know the deal.

[colts19]

Since we're doing stats without any context, LeBron and Bird by age 30:

LeBron[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]Bird
24,913[COLOR="White"]......[/COLOR]15,508 Points
6,502[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]6,579 Rebounds
6,301[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3,900 Assists
1,553[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]1,169 Steals
724[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]541 Blocks
58%[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]56.5% TS
2x Rings[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3x Rings
2x FMVP[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]2x FMVP
4x MVP[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3x MVP
11x All-NBA[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]8x All-NBA
6x All-D[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3x All-D

How was my post stats without context. The context was when they were both 30 years old and playing NBA Basketball, those were the stats they had that year. It's not really that hard if you just follow along.

Again, I wasn't putting James down in any way. I was actually paying him a complement by using him a the measuring stick. No one else currently playing could have provided the same level of Greatness to compare him against. Happy Now.

[Lebron23]

Since we're doing stats without any context, LeBron and Bird by age 30:

LeBron[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]Bird
24,913[COLOR="White"]......[/COLOR]15,508 Points
6,502[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]6,579 Rebounds
6,301[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3,900 Assists
1,553[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]1,169 Steals
724[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]541 Blocks
58%[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]56.5% TS
2x Rings[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3x Rings
2x FMVP[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]2x FMVP
4x MVP[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3x MVP
11x All-NBA[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]8x All-NBA
6x All-D[COLOR="white"]......[/COLOR]3x All-D

Aj1987 just ended this thread. All the LeBron Haters. I got two words for you "Suck It."

[GrapeApe]

Bird not winning the 81 FMVP is a lame argument. He outplayed Maxwell for the series. Before you chime in on the "back to back" 8 point games routine, remember Maxwell's game 2 of 6 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists?
Bird was 15.3 pts, 15.3 reb and 7 assists for that series vs Maxwell's 17.7 pts, 9.5 reb, and 2.8 assists.
Lebron spends a lot more time playing the PG position than Bird ever did - so the assist total is going to favor Lebron. Bird did more with the ball in less time. Its apples and oranges, rules changes, and 30 years difference!

Bird probably deserved FMVP, but regardless he was still the best player on the team, similar to Curry last season. Bird was his team's best player for all 3 titles.

[Lebron23]

Damn I missed the part where James was competing against KAJ, Moses, Doctor J, Magic, Hakeem and Jordan for those MVP's.

He competed against Allen, Garnett, Pierce, Durant, Duncan, Ginobili, Leonard, Carmelo Anthony, Curry, Westbrook, Ben Wallace, Rose, Butler, Thomson, and Green. Some of those guys are first ballot hall of famers.

[90sgoat]

Just had to post how much this made me laugh earlier hahahah

Awesome, please tell me that was to Simon

GTFO Simon to Pornhub.

[stalkerforlife]

He competed against Allen, Garnett, Pierce, Durant, Duncan, Ginobili, Leonard, Carmelo Anthony, Curry, Westbrook, Ben Wallace, Thomson, and Green.

[Lebron23]

Ginobili is a hall of famer. Same with Melo Anthony who's the dominique wilkins of his era. Thompson, Green, Westbrook are having solid seasons. Ben Wallace is a future hall of famer.