The forgotten team: 1993 New York Knicks

[LAZERUSS]

Add in 30>22>18=2/6...... FACT

How about 22<24<25...FACT.

Or a prime Wilt averaging 30 ppg, 27 rpg, 5 apg, on a .515 FG% (in post-seasons that shot .425 in the same span) in his 67 playoff games (35 of which were against Russell)? Find me another GOAT who put up just ONE SERIES with those numbers.

Or this...

Wilt's numbers in his 23 must-win playoff games...13 of which came against HOF starting centers.

12-11 W-L record

31.1 ppg (Regular season career average was 30.1 ppg)
26.1 rpg (Regular season career average was 22.9 rpg)
3.4 apg (Regular season career average was 4.4 apg)
.540 FG% (Regular season career average was .540 FG%)


3 games of 50+ points

5 games of 40+ points (including a Finals 40+ elimination game)

13 games of 30+ points

6 games of 30+ rebounds

20 games of 20+ rebounds

BTW, Wilt's 31.1 ppg is just behind MJ's 31.3 ppg, and Lebron's 31.9 ppg in playoff must-win games. Oh, and those three 50+ point must-win games...the ONLY three by a GOAT in NBA history.

Or how about Wilt in his 37 must-win, or potential series clinching games...

Wilt actually played in 37 "elimination games",...games where either his team faced elimination, or could have clinched the series:

1. W: 53-22-2, 24-42 FG/FGA

2. W: 50-35-2, 22-42

3. L: 26-24-0, 8-18

4. L: 33-23-1, 13-29

5. W: 56-35-1, 22-48

6. W: 32-21-1, 12-29

7. L: 22-22-3, 7-15

8. W: 39-30-?, 19-29

9. L: 30-27-2, 12-28

10. W: 38-26-5, 14-22, 10 blks (Triple-Double)

11. W: 30-26-4, 13-22, 13 blks (Triple-Double)

12. L: 30-32-2, 12-15

13. L: 46-34-?, 19-34

14. W: 18-27-9, 7-14

15. W: 29-36-13, 10-16, 7 blks (Triple-Double)

16. W: 24-23-4, 8-13

17. W: 25-27-3, 10-19

18. L: 28-30-7, 11-21

19. L: 20-27-8, 6-21

20. L: 14-34-5, 4-9

21. W: 11-25-1, 5-9

22. W: 16-29-3, 5-11, 16 blks (Triple-Double)

23. L: 8-18-4, 1-5

24. L: 18-27-3, 7-8

25. W: 36-14-3, 12-20

26. W: 12-26-11, 4-11, 11 blks (Quad-Double)

27. W: 30-27-6, 11-18, 11 blks (Triple-Double)

28. W: 45-27-3, 20-27

29. L: 21-24-4, 10-16

30. W: 25-19-9, 7-12

31. L: 23-12-4, 10-21

32. W: 8-31-8, 4-6

33. W: 20-24-2, 8-12, 10 blks (Triple-Double)

34. W: 24-29-4, 10-14, 8 blks

35. W: 21-28-4, 10-17, 8 blks

36. W: 5-22-7, 2-2

37. L: 23-21-3, 9-16


W-L : 24-13

Here were Wilt's averages in those 37 games:

29.5 ppg

26.1 rpg

4.2 apg (missing one game)

.546 FG% (in post-seasons that shot about .440 on average in that span.)

Keep in mind that 24 of those 37 games came after his "scoring seasons" (59-60 thru 65-66)

FACTS.

[TripleA]

Knicks .

[Asukal]

How about 22<24<25...FACT.

Or a prime Wilt averaging 30 ppg, 27 rpg, 5 apg, on a .515 FG% (in post-seasons that shot .425 in the same span) in his 67 playoff games (35 of which were against Russell)? Find me another GOAT who put up just ONE SERIES with those numbers.

Or this...



Or how about Wilt in his 37 must-win, or potential series clinching games...



FACTS.

"Cherry picked" FACTS.

[ProfessorMurder]

Very cool how this thread sucks dick.

Talk about Jordan and Wilt and Bran some more.

[Stringer Bell]

And this is going to be what happens to CP3 and this Clippers squad in 20 years, they've done less than that Knicks team.
They've done actually nothing hahah

FORGOTTEN

The Knicks of this period actually are remembered now. They often get overrated because they gave Chicago a tough time, and I often hear about "Jordan and the Bulls prevented the Ewing and the Knicks from winning championships".

They might have won in 1993 against the Suns, which would have been a very interesting series, especially following their brawl, but they were very unlikely to win any titles in the other years that the Bulls eliminated them.

[Stringer Bell]

And yet he drew the series-deciding foul on Laimbeer on the last possession of Game 7, to literally WIN the series.

Again, the Lakers weren't capable of even 1 championship without Kareem, despite being capable of winning 5 with him... It's a massive decline for a team to go from 5-ring capability to no-ring capability.

Of course, MJ had an even greater impact than Kareem - at least Kareem's 5-time champs could still make the Finals without him.. Otoh, MJ's 6-time champs couldn't even get past the 2nd Round without him!!!

That was game 6....Game 7 was Big Game James Worthy going nuts and destroying Detroit with 36, 16, and 10.

The Pistons almost made a great comeback in the 4th quarter, cutting down a 15 point lead to 2, but Rodman took a dumb shot in transition which really hurt the Pistons' chances at the end.

[Horatio33]

The aspergers in this thread is off the charts.

[Real14]

I was a Jordan Stan at the time and a bandwagon Bulls fan. I used to annoy my dad cuz I was yes Jordan beat the knicks I was in the 1st grade tho, could u blame me?

[SouBeachTalents]

Let's be real, OP gives jackshit about that Knicks team. He just made it to suck Jordan off some more.

/thread. Literally every thread & post he makes on this site is to do that

[Overdrive]

Travel.

[Da_Realist]

They had heart. That's more than I can say about the majority of teams today.

[NBAGOAT]

They had heart. That's more than I can say about the majority of teams today.

Classic type of statement that really doesn't mean anything. Every team in the playoffs this year had heart besides the Rockets and maybe the Raptors at times. A few days after seeing what Austin Rivers did too.

[Da_Realist]

MJ broke the series open in Game 4 with 54 points.

Remember, in addition to no-spacing, the NBA had legal paint-camping back then, so players like MJ couldn't penetrate anytime they wanted like players today - in this particular series, the Knicks sealed the paint.. So MJ scored 54 points in Game 4 on ALL JUMPSHOTS..

You guys think I'm bullshitting, but it's true - he dropped 54 on all jumpshots, because he knew that was the only way to have a big game.. Fortunately, he had the CAPACITY within his game to accomplish this (he was a great shooter):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoVMIZWS_-A

MJ went off in Game 4 because he and John Starks had a heated skirmish near the end of Game 3. And even at the beginning of Game 4, Starks was going back at him. Starks provoked that outburst.

However, I believe MJ played even better in game 5.

[Round Mound]

Has it ever happened that a teams best player leaves the team and then the 2nd option is 4th and 7th in PER? Never!