Do You Believe Love is Out of Cleveland After This Season?

[J Shuttlesworth]

I think it's all a big exaggeration. The main thing causing Love to leave would be an anti-climactic playoff push, like losing in the ECF.

Love has always been somewhat of an anti-social dude. He only was friends with 2 dudes from the T-Wolves and his locker room presence is allegedly nothing like what we see on TV. It's no surprise he wasn't in that pic with LeBron. It's just not his style. He doesn't need to be best friends with LeBron for this to work.

[305Baller]

Do you believe in life after Love?

[navy]

Very true. I felt when the New York Daily News story came up that it was close to bullshit, and I do feel it's being blow out of proportion probably, but there's something I keep going back to. And that's the reports of what Love was doing when he was in Minnesota and pointing fingers and being called out by team-mates. I keep alluding back to that. Maybe it's just because thy were losing every season and not going anywhere and it was a frustrating situation, or maybe it's just the way he is?

Love is apparently not a team player. Personality wise. He's not a ball hog, he's the opposite. He was apparently allergic to the ball in Minny when the game got tough and in Cleveland the Cavs have enough that they honestly dont care. Sometimes even bench him.

That's not gonna change no matter where he goes. He was in the perfect situation in Minny. No media, no expectations. Rubio and barea called himout for not being a leader, but he's never going to be a leader. That's just who he is.

That doesnt mean he'll leave. Like I said, does he really want to be franchise player in New York? In Los Angeles. That takes a special kind of skin. Maybe he'll head to Boston. Do they want him on the max? No clue.

As long as the Cavs are offering him the max, he's probably gonna stay.

[SCdac]

If he's intent on leaving he's intent on leaving. Even if they go all the way, I feel like he would use his role on a Championship team as negotiating power (not that he needs it, really, but it doesn't hurt). Of recent, I think of Tyson Chandler landing a fat contract with the Knicks. It does seem like Love isn't vibing with the team

[Rose]

Interesting take on it, you put most of the reasoning of why this is happening because of the team and not Love. Reports show that LeBron has repeatedly been reaching out to Love to be a part of the team. Everyone else is with the program except for Love for whatever reason.

Ask for him being utilized correctly, that goes both ways. Sure, the Cavs should draw up more than just 3 point shots for him, but at the same time, if he wants the ball at his most dangerous position on the court where he can operate (the elbow of the key) all he needs to do is to wrong his ass down there, post up, and yell for the ball any time he wants to. He rarely does this. I'm not sure if it's choice, or his back bothers him that badly or both. It's almost like if he has a good day with his back, he'll do it more often, and if he has a bad day with is back he just wants to stand at the arc and chuck up threes.

I don't necessarily blame one side or the other. He's a very unique player. For years we've heard that he's a bad leader, he doesn't want to play for the t-wolves, he wants to be a Laker, he wants this or that or whatever. To me it's no surprise that all that baggage followed him to Cleveland. I'm not gonna waste time discussing what's happened before basically for the last 4 years of his career.

Maybe it is the team's fault to an extent. Because they are playing LeBron ball. They tried to run a real offense what the first 20?25? games of the year and they weren't that good. Granted a lot of that offensively at least was because it takes a while for guys to gel. They switched it up to LeBron ball and the offense got better. They were bottom of the league in rebounding before getting Mozgov. So basically Love's best attribute was being wasted. Because I think we all remember Thompson going out and just dominating the offensive glass basically every night of the season. After that the rebounding went up a lot, and the defense got better because they weren't playing Love at center sometimes which he can't play. All that shows me that he wasn't having an impact, and he definitely wasn't being used right.

Since then it got worse the benchings, the rumors flared up, etc. Now the team has an offensive rhythm again because of LeBron ball. He likes to play with a big and 3 shooters. Love is a really good 3 point shot but what no one realizes is....he's actually a really bad midrange shooter . So he can't even really space the floor that well aside from when he sits in the corner (which happens way too ****ing much still) and jacks up 6 threes. So basically he can't even dominate the elbow like he should, because he doesn't get the opportunity too due to that offense.

If Blatt were smarter (and it took Spo a while to get this with Wade/Bosh) he'd sit LeBron more and play Love a lot when LeBron isn't. That way he can rest his best player, and get his third star more involved because Love/Kyrie actually play really well together. They could use him more in his traditional way and it would work. So yeah there's some blame for everyone. But I don't blame Love for wanting to leave. It's not his job to demand shots or whatever that typically makes a guy look bad. Remember in I think it was the first year of the Heat and Bosh publicly stated he wanted the ball down low more and then they won the next game after everyone in the media saying he was greedy and should accept that he won't get that many shots particularly in places he wanted them?

Found it:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/trueho...ory?id=6196012

[christian1923]

Would you stay? I wouldn't

[STATUTORY]

he's gone for certain, same situation as dwight and lakers, fans deluding themselves into the possibility that he's staying

[gts]

What's your take on the situation? You come in, make this comment, but contribute nothing.

my take is where there's smoke there's fire.... My media comment was snarky yes but every time this topic is brought up somebody says there's nothing here these guys didn't do or say anything, that it's all media driven, the Cavs sing Kumbuya on the bus every night. Like I said where there's smoke there's fire and there's been plenty of smoke

Here's what i think happens, Love doesn't opt out but make's it clear he will not sign an extension to his current contract either and he'll explore the free agent market in 2016 when the big TV $$$ comes into play... The Cavs front office will have to start making some decisions at that point

Even if he's happy as a clam in Cleveland he'd be a fool to opt out this summer and sign for what will be equal to upper level role player money next summer so nothing will be finalized this summer, next season will be more of the same...

That being said, if he does opt in it wouldn't shock me to hear that the Cavs start shopping him over the summer...

[wakencdukest]

Love has never been to the playoffs...

With this team he is going there for the first time evver, I doubt he's going anywhere any time soon.

Who thought LeBron would put his tail between his legs and go back to Cleveland after going to the finals 4 years straight and winning two championships in Miami. I thought people were crazy for thinking that. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Love left.

[JtotheIzzo]

If he has a brain he will leave.

Bran will bolt the minute he gets them a chip, so Love might end up marooned in that shithole with no hope for a few years making less than he could have.

He should go to LAL with Westbrook.

[poido123]

I think it will come down to a money decision.


Love will know that he is losing money by playing with Lebron in this type of system. His stats are suffering badly by the lack of touches and style of play.


On the other hand, he has stated on record that he wants to remain a Cav when it's all said and done.

Perhaps that is just PR? Who knows, it really hinges on how badly he wants to win. He will get no better opportunity than with the current Cavs team.


My guess is he will sign through the 2015-2016 season wit the Cavs with the opportunity to sign a new deal under the new cap(which i'm guessing will not be the Cavs).

[JtotheIzzo]

On the other hand, he has stated on record that he wants to remain a Cav when it's all said and done.

if he said anything else he would unleash a shit storm.

[poido123]

if he said anything else he would unleash a shit storm.

Which is the part I said about remaining PR etc.


Looking at this logically in Love's shoes, I'd want to remain on a stacked Cavs team and give myself the best chance at a title for one more year and become a free agent after the 2015-2016 season in time for the salary cap jump.