If MJ played today, why wouldn't a coach run this play every possession?

[3ball]

Isolations versus 1-defender strongsides - obviously, 1-defender strongsides couldn't be done in the 80's because guys didn't shoot 3's, so there were no weakside floor-spreaders drawing defenders away from the strongside (spacing).. But today's game has the requisite 3-point shooting and spacing, so 1-defender strongsides are common.

Given MJ's isolation efficiency, it would be optimal to run the "1-defender strongside play" EVERY play.. It makes mathematical sense.. Lebron isolates the most often in today's game even though his isolation points per possession (PPP) and FG% are very low in the regular season, and even lower in this postseason (stats shown below).

If Lebron's low isolation efficiency rates justify his league-leading isolation frequency AND help his team, than what kind of impact would MJ's far superior, league-leading isolation efficiency have against these 1-defender strongsides?


Link to NBA.com for isolation statistics:

http://stats.nba.com/playtype/#!/isolation/?dir=1

In regular season, Lebron ranked only 78th out of 350 in isolation PPP, while his FG% ranked 117th out of 350.. In the playoffs, Lebron is 35th out of 40 in isolation PPP, and 30th out of 40 in FG%.
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[Quickening]

Because he is old as fck and probably can't shoot for chit anymore

[Rose'sACL]

Would you defend curry and lebron the same way?
go watch 2013 and 2014 finals. in 2013 finals, kawhi was standing back a little to make lebron shoot instead of drive to the rim.
in 2014 when lebron's jumper was wet, kawhi was guarding him closely.
in current playoffs, lebron's jumper has been poor so hawks were playing defense to protect against the drive to the rim on most possesions.

[KobesFinger]

So Jordan shoots 80 shots a game?

[IGOTGAME]

you understand that its possible to bring a second defender strongside and zone the rest of the players? that this was a strategic decision.

You are a crazy person.

Its was way easier to isolate back before the zone rules. you are a crazy person. seek help. im serious, only a crazy person does this.

[3ball]

So Jordan shoots 80 shots a game?

Not necessarily - he might pass it.. But regardless, given MJ's GOAT iso ability, it would be mathematically correct to run the play 80 times a game, where MJ is isolated against 1 strongside defender.

We know that if Lebron's middle-of-the-pack isolation efficiency can help his team succeed and justify him isolating more often than any player in the entire league, than the impact of MJ's LEAGUE-LEADING isolation efficiency would justify an MJ isolation on literally every single play.'

In previous eras, the lack of spacing and legal paint-camping made MJ thread needles in order to score and pass on strongsides that were chalk-full with all 5 defenders, as seen in GIFs above.. In today's game, he'd face fewer strongside defenders due to weakside floor-spreaders that draw defenders away from the strongside (spacing).

[livinglegend]

I have a serious question.
Is there anyone on this forum who seriously reads 3ball's long post?

[3ball]

you understand that its possible to bring a second defender strongside

Yeah, it's called a strongside flood, where a defender on the weakside floods over to the strongside.

But strongside floods can't occur and aren't necessary if everyone is already on the strongside to begin with, like in previous eras when there were no weakside floor-spreaders to draw defenders away (no spacing)..

The strongside floods you speak of are only necessary BECAUSE weakside floor-spreaders initially drew defenders away from the strongside, which leaves the strongside with only 1 or 2 defenders and necessitates the flooding of defenders BACK TO the strongside... The spacing (weakside floor-spreaders) necessitates the flooding.. Here, let me give you an example to illustrate - see the next post:

[3ball]

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In the picture below, weakside floor-spreaders have drawn defenders away from the strongside.. If Noah doesn't leave #20 Mosgov and flood to the strongside, the strongside will only have 2 defenders on it.. This demonstrates how spacing necessitates flooding - defenders must flood BACK to the strongside (Noah), only because they were originally drawn away by floor-spreaders on the weakside (Mosgov)






Otoh, previous eras didn't have weakside floor-spreaders drawing defenders away from the strongside, so the strongside was usually ALREADY FLOODED with all 5 defenders, as seen below:





Without 3-point shooting, previous eras didn't have spacing or weakside floor-spreaders to draw defenders away from the strongside, so players faced more defenders on the strongside than today's game.. In today's game, weakside spacing ensures a more porous distribution of strongside defenders that prevents today's players from ever having to face a strongside with all 5 defenders on it.

Accordingly, the stats of today's players should be downgraded appropriately, particularly the paint and at-rim efficiencies that benefited from the porous strongside defense.. It should also be noted that the porous spacing also allows today's players to take longer with decisions, while getting away with a weaker, less sophisticated repertoire and isolation ability.

[livinglegend]

You 3ball! Nobody reads your essays.
Stop wasting your time.

PS: anyone reading all those long texts is stupid as fvck. No offense.

[3ball]

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Top Five Michael Jordan Buckets on Dennis Rodman


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... Game-Winner 1989 ECF Game 3

[livinglegend]

No long essay needed - today's player faces fewer defenders on the strongside due to weakside floor-spreaders that draw them away (also called spacing).

Is that simple enough for your dumbass

if no long essay was needed, why did you write a long essay?

[dubeta]

if no long essay was needed, why did you write a long essay?

[sdot_thadon]

if no long essay was needed, why did you write a long essay?

[jongib369]

These are reposts, but too long? Essay? Shouldn't be surprised people don't have the attention span to read a paragraph or two when most arguments consist of two numbers, and a slash. You want 3ball to shut up, you'll have to put in the effort he did to prove his point wrong. Or you know, don't click his post