Is Wade the 3rd best shooting guard of all time?

[DStebb716]

AI is better than Wade but AI was a PG.

[GOBB]

Debatable because Iverson has an MVP award.

But Wade has a FMVP and a ring. He'll probably win more by the time his career's over.

Shaq, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh he's the greatest of the universe

But Wade could end up passing Iverson when his career is over. He's on the track too. I wouldnt be mad. AI is my 2nd fav player of all time, and today Wade is my favorite. 2nd fav today is Derrick Rose. Seems i'm arguing which of my favorite players are better than the other. A win win situation if you ask me. And yes offtopic, Rose just might end his career as a better player than Iverson. Potential is there but for now Iverson is the man...for now.

[AngelEyes]

AI is better than Wade but AI was a PG.

AI was never better than Wade. Wade was a much more complete and efficient basketball player.

[GOBB]

AI is better than Wade but AI was a PG.

Yeah, Eric Snow was our SG.

[bizil]

Well peak value wise, Wade I feel is the third best SG of all time just behind MJ and Kobe. After that u have guys like West, T Mac, Gervin, Drexler, David Thompson, and Iverson. But in GOAT terms (team accolades, solo accolades, longevity being great, numbers) I would indeed have West and Wade battling for that spot. I feel Wade is getting to a point in his career where he can be argued number three. But i will still roll with West over Wade in GOAT terms. But Wade very, very, very soon will pass West for number three. I give Drexler mad props for being the third or fourth GOAT SG for many years until Wade got going. I do feel T Mac and Thompson could have really shook up the list if they stayed healthy for a longer period of time.

[97 bulls]

Wade is probably 4th. I just don't see what makes him so great. His accolades are thhe ring, finals mvp and the scoring title. But in all honesty, he's had two great seasons. What's so special about the 3-4 injury plagued years? The so-so to terrible records? The debacle that was last year?

He's a flavor of the month to me.

[AngelEyes]

Wade is probably 4th. I just don't see what makes him so great. His accolades are thhe ring, finals mvp and the scoring title. But in all honesty, he's had two great seasons. What's so special about the 3-4 injury plagued years? The so-so to terrible records? The debacle that was last year?

He's a flavor of the month to me.

Flavor of the month? Give me a damn break. How was last year a debacle? He had another terrific year. I don't know what you define as a great year, but he's had more than two. Just because the guy isn't scoring 32 points a game doesn't mean he isn't having a great season. Wade is a much more complete player than a lot of the other stars in the game, he plays more defense than Iverson ever did.

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[gengiskhan]

No.

Wade is the 2nd Best SG of all time after Jordan.

[jrong]

Yes he is.

Iverson? What a joke. You're comparing a career low 40s shooter against a career high 40s shooter. A chucker against a do-everything player. A player whose team's defense had to be built to hide his liabilities against an elite defender. One of the least efficient high-volume shooters ever vs. an efficiency machine. A player who was a coach's nightmare vs. a coach's dream.

Seriously, Gobb, I'm inclined to be charitable around the holidays, but Iverson over Wade is a pitiful joke.

[jrong]

Scoring is the only thing? Try passing too. One of the best passing SGs of all time. Maybe the best.

Is this a bizarro thread? Iverson a great passer? Please, he wouldn't any kind of top passing SGs. Hell, Kobe's a better passer than AI.

The best two are probably West and Wade (please wake up to the fact that Wade is a Bron-level passer) but I would put MJ (spectacularly underrated passer) up there too...

[AngelEyes]

Is this a bizarro thread? Iverson a great passer? Please, he wouldn't any kind of top passing SGs. Hell, Kobe's a better passer than AI.

The best two are probably West and Wade (please wake up to the fact that Wade is a Bron-level passer) but I would put MJ (spectacularly underrated passer) up there too...

Iverson was never a great passer, at best he was an above average passer. He played a lot of minutes and handled the ball the entire game and was thus able to accumulate a lot of assists. I agree with Jordan being a very underrated passer.

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Now, now, don't you bring in your logic to this here conversation.

The sad thing is, West would probably be argued as one of the BEST defensive guards in league history had the NBA a) kept track of defensive stats sooner and b) created the All Defensive team sooner.

I honestly do not believe Wade is "close" to West for 3rd best SG of all time.

[pauk]

Jerry West... he is like top 10-15 of all time...

[redridinghood]

I still like TMac, hehehehe, but I'd go with Wade for 3rd only because he hasn't achieve as much/close to Kobe. Might change my mind if he does win a couple of rings though, despite the fact that Lebron might take away the attention of Wade winning his future rings

And about West, I'm just wondering how many of us here did witness him play? He may or may not be 3rd, but I didn't see him play before so no comment