Lebrons career compared to Jordan in same amount of time (8 seasons)

[BullsDynasty]

Stop it. It's disrespectful to compare Lebron to Jordan. Jordan was a winner. He lived for the big moments. He never disappeared in the biggest stage unlike Lebron.

Jordan went to finals 6 times and won all 6 of them. Lebron went to finals twice.. and lost both of them. One of them being with one of the most stacked teams in NBA history. The worst thing is it was all Lebron's fault.

You're comparing this guy to Jordan? How stupid are you? One of them was born to win. The other one is just an athletically gifted player who lacks intangibles which make players great.

Also, LMAO at the idiots who say Jordan had 0 rings when he was Lebron's age. Age doesn't matter in NBA. What matters is how much playing time your body can handle and that is directly related to how many seasons you play.

[The_Yearning]

You also forgot the 2 dunking championship Jordan won. Something LBJ is too afraid to compete in.

You also forgot the college education MJ received from NC, something LBJ skipped.

You also forgot all of the clutch shots and gamer winners MJ hit, something LBJ doesn't even come close to (only Kobe does).

You also forgot what MJ said himself: "Kobe is the only one who has done the work to be worth of comparison to me."

You also forgot the endless chokes LBJ has had compared to Jordan.

You also forgot to note that MJ won 2 FMVP as the undisputed best player on his team.

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[Quickening]

I don't get the obsession with stats etc... how can you compare the numbers of different eras.. Jordans played in the 80s and 90s... what was the average ppg?

In comparision to the years Lebron has played... I mean one era could have 130 ppg, another have 100 ppg and make out that the previous era must have had far better players because they scored more.. ignoring defence etc.

[G-Funk]

First 8 seasons comparisons between Jordan and LeBron

Regular Season Numbers

Michael Jordan: 32.3ppg 6.3reb 6.0ast 2.7stl 1.1blk 3.1tov 51.4%fg 84.7%ft 28.4%3pt 38.7 MPG (played 589 games)

LeBron James: 27.7ppg 7.1reb 7.0ast 1.7stl 0.8blk 3.3tov 47.9%fg 74.4%ft 32.9%3pt 40.1 MPG (played 627 games)

Playoff Career Numbers

Michael Jordan: 34.6ppg 6.7reb 6.8ast 2.4stl 1.0blk 3.5tov 50.7%fg 84.0%ft 33.7%3pt 42.0 MPG(played 92 games)

LeBron James: 28.0ppg 8.0reb 7.0ast 1.7stl 1.0blk 3.6tov 46.0%fg 74.6%ft 32.3%3pt 43.6 MPG (played 92 games)

Finals Career Numbers (Both played 2 Finals)

Michael Jordan: 33.7ppg 5.6reb 8.7ast 2.2stl 0.8blk 3.8tov 53.9%fg 87.3%ft 43.8%3pt 43.2 MPG (11 games played)

LeBron James: 19.5ppg 7.1reb 6.8ast 1.4stl 0.5blk 4.7tov 41.7%fg 65.3%ft 27.1%3pt 43.1 MPG (10 games played)




Oh, you also have to take into account that LeBron is playing a more perimeter friendly era compared to Jordan.

Also, in the Finals, Jordan had to go up with the likes of Magic Johnson and Clyde Drexler in his first 2 Finals, compared to LeBron going up against.... Bruce Bowen and Shawn Marion...


LeBron's great and all, but Jordan simply was better in his first 8 seasons and the playoff seperation clearly proves that.

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[TheMan]

Pauk, stop comparing LBJ to MJ, it's a disservice to LeBron, he is nowhere MJ, there are things you can't measure and stats wise, he's not close to Jordan.

"Still waiting for LBJ to devestate the league like MJ did"

[LeFraud James]

As you can see.... Jordan was better due to the 2 rings, 2 fmvps..... but excluding Jordans 2 rings & 2 fmvp, Lebrons & Jordans careers are overall identical!!

The conclusion and point = Lebron is on a fantastic pace to dig deep into the top 10 when its all said and done........ he will need to just start winning some rings....... and due to Lebron coming in earlier than Jordan, he has 2-3 years headstart......... means Lebron will play more seasons than Jordan did........ which means it gives him the advantage for a chance to accumulate a similar career... if not.. better.....

Let's see if he can win a single ring before comparing him to the greatest to ever play the game.

Fact of the matter is, everyone knew that Jordan would become something special during his first 8 seasons because of his mentality. Stats don't tell you everything.

[OldSchoolBBall]

I thought it would be interesting to find out what kindof pace Lebron is in career wise compared to the other greats (this time Jordan) in same amount of time (8 seasons)..... and while at it share the results here if you dont mind... so here it goes...

[COLOR="Red"]MICHAEL JORDAN[/COLOR]

2 x MVP
2 x Champion
2 x FMVP
1 x DPOY
1 x All-Star MVP
Rookie of the Year
6 x NBA All-Star
4 x NBA scoring champion
5 x All-NBA 1st team
3 x All-Defensive 1st team
All-Rookie 1st team
1 x Gold Medal
11 x Player of the Month trophies

STATS:

19000 points @ 32.2 PPG
3697 rebounds @ 6.2 RPG
3507 assists @ 5.9 APG
1594 steals @ 2.7 SPG
623 blocks @ 1.0 BPG
40 total triple doubles

PER - 29.0 (#1 all-time)


[COLOR="Red"]LEBRON JAMES NBA CAREER[/COLOR]

2 x MVP
2 x All-Star MVP
Rookie of the Year
7 x NBA All-Star
1 x NBA scoring champion
5 x All-NBA 1st team
3 x All-Defensive 1st team
All-Rookie 1st team
1 x Gold Medal
18 x Player of the Month trophies (most in NBA history)

STATS:

18174 points @ 27.7 PPG
4689 rebounds @ 7.1 RPG
4561 assists @ 7.0 APG
1129 steals @ 1.7 SPG
551 blocks @ 0.8 BPG
40 total triple doubles

PER - 27.2 (#2 all-time)

Jordan's PER was well above 29.0 after 1992. You must have included his abbreviated 1986 season (where even in the ~20 games he played he played just 18-20 mpg many games while coming back from a broken foot) as a full season and averaged it in as such. Remove 1986 and it's 29.8 PER.

EDIT: Looks like you did this for all the "per game" stats. I do know that when MJ retired in 1993 he had career averages of 32.5 pts/6.3 reb/6.1 ast/2.8 stl/1.0 blk if you exclude 1986.

[NumberSix]

This is one of the reasons players like LeBron and Kobe get so much hate. People trying to put them on Jordan's level. All you're doing is forcing people explain why they're not. As great as they are, they're just gonna look bad when you compare them to Jordan.

[Heavincent]

but excluding Jordans 2 rings & 2 fmvp, Lebrons & Jordans careers are overall identical!![/U]

That's kind of a big deal you know. That's like saying "If you exclude Jordan's 6 rings, Kobe had a better career!".

Rings and FMVP's are the best and most important accomplishments, and of course Lebron has neither.

[Heavincent]

And pauk, all this proves is that Jordan's first 8 years were vastly superior to Lebron's first 8 years. Was anybody questioning Jordan's ability to lead his team to a championship after 8 seasons? **** NO.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

As you can see.... Jordan was better due to the 2 rings, 2 fmvps..... but excluding Jordans 2 rings & 2 fmvp, Lebrons & Jordans careers are overall identical!!
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Jordan is the greatest postseason performer of all-time, so taking away his championships (or achievements) doesn't work. Try again, "wee one".

[Legends66NBA7]

Jordan is the greatest postseason performer of all-time, so taking away his championships (or achievements) doesn't work. Try again, "wee one".

Also, Jordan is one of, if not the, greatest finals performers of all-time.

While LeBron has showed he can go on a tear in the postseason, his last 2 playoff runs have been very so-so and shown that he's suspect to checking out when the going gets tough.

Plus, he's one of the worst finals performers of any superstar and currently holds the NBA Record biggest drop off from regular season to finals numbers for a superstar.

And that's just looking at the stats. Their mental game is where Jordan is completely on another level.

Can you imagine Shawn Marion, Jason Terry, or DeShawn Stevenson trying to talk trash to Jordan like they did to LeBron in the 2011 Finals?

Jordan would make it a goal to absolutely humiliate the Mavericks for the rest of that series. Especially under today's rules, at LeBron's age ? Would be a massacre...

[Lebron23]

It's time to lock this thread. Come on Pauk. Stop creating threads with hidden agenda. LeBron is gonna win an NBA title this year, but right now you need to stop comparing him with MJ.

[NumberSix]

It's time to lock this thread. Come on Pauk. Stop creating threads with hidden agenda. LeBron is gonna win an NBA title this year, but right now you need to stop comparing him with MJ.

Unless he doesn't.

[bada bing]

good post. Lebron winning a ring with the heat will not be equal to the rings that Jordan won. If Lebron had stayed with the cavs and won a ring with them, then lebron would have been elevated to God like status. I think they were one or two players away then and lebron could have led them. anyways, this is a very good comparison but i doubt lebron ever reaches jordan's level even after he wins a few rings with the heat.