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Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
.......he'd have retired after 7 years instead of 13
since bird lacks the work ethic to get his body back to normal after devastating injuries
if bird wrecked his knee like kobe did in the 2003 playoffs then he probably would have come back in his 8th season as half the player cause his idea of rehab is sitting at home drinking beer like a hick
LOL, are we ignoring Kobe's speed, strength, vertical advantage Bird would get?
Kobe's 6'7 235 pounds with elite speed, leaping ability (40 inch vert), and strength
Bird with Kobe's body would shoot a lot better than Kobes putrid 45%
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Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by dubeta
LOL, are we ignoring Kobe's speed, strength, vertical advantage Bird would get?
Kobe's 6'7 235 pounds with elite speed, leaping ability (40 inch vert), and strength
Bird with Kobe's body would shoot a lot better than Kobes putrid 45%
part of birds advantage was being 6-10 and being able to just shoot over players with his flat footed over head motion
thats a skill that is only useful as a tall player
it wouldnt translate into a guards body
the flat footed set shot is 10 times easier to time/perfect than a full leg vertical jumpshot
bird would basically have to start over from scratch..
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Decent playground baller
Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by DetroitPistonFan
Bird put up better numbers in all the games against Jordan and the Bulls. And the Bulls were 11-17 in the regular season and 0-6 in the Playoffs against the Celtics. Agreed?
I agree that you are a dumbass.
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Pistons Owns Lakers
Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by Coach Eddie
I agree that you are a dumbass.
Truth hurts doesn't, Jordan-tard?
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College superstar
Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by Champ
Pretty solid answer and this about sums it up.
I would add, however, that Bird was one of the few - if not the only - player that could mentally go toe-to-toe with Jordan.
Magic as well, and had they met in 1995, I think Hakeem had the capability to stare down the barrel at MJ at that point.
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The triggerer
Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Jordan 39.7PPG against Bird in the Playoffs
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NBA Superstar
Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by dubeta
Give Bird Kobes body and he wins 7-8 rings as well
Give Bird Brans body/athleticism thats an easy 10 rings minimum. The durability, the insane speed, power wouldnt be much of an upgrade Bird was prolly stronger, but speed and durability combined with leaping? Bran is one of the GOAT athletes what almost all of his game is
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Lebron fan
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Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Bird:
"I think it's God disguised as Michael Jordan".
Since Bird himself called MJ a god, and Bird was CLEARLY human (how else can you explain the bad back and short career).
God >>>>>>> Human.
That was easy.
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Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Bird is not better than Jordan peak vs. peak ('84-'87 Bird and '90-'93 Jordan), but offensively only one could make a decent case, though even offensively only I'd take Jordan.
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Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by Round Mound
Bird was a Better: Rebounder, Passer, Creator For Others, Team Player, Long Range Shooter. FT Shooter and Team Defender (especially when he played the 4 in the initial part of his career).
MJ was a Better: Pure Scorer, Equal Mid Range Shooter (though had Higher FG% because no other SGs could guard him the post: too strong for his position) and a Better Slasher and Driver to the Basket (basically better athletically). MJ was also a Better 1 on 1 Defender.
Bird was a Better All Around Player IMO
Fuck outta here.
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Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Prime 80s Larry Bird said it himself that Jordan was god reincarnated in the form of a basketball player. Quit rewriting history. Bird played on stacked teams in the 80s while the second best player on Jordan's 80 teams was a crackhead.
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Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by Round Mound
[B]Bird was a Better: Creator For Others, and Team Defender
LMAO how did I miss this gem. No. Just no. Bird was a great team defender, but Jordan was like top 2-3 all time among non-bigs in that respect.
Also disagree that he was better as a creator. As a passer, he is definitely better than Jordan, but Jordan's edge in penetrating and distorting defenses allows him to be equal or superior to Bird in creating opportunities for his teammates.
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Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
Originally Posted by Lebronxrings
yea i kinda agree here. Kobe was more of the type to rely on natural talent and body rather than skill.
Except Kobe is arguably the most skilled NBA player of all time with the most moves, countermoves and best footwork. Not to mention guys like LeBron, Jordan, TMac, Carter, Wade, etc are all superior athletically than him. And only two of those are comparable to Kobe...
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Perfectly Calm, Dude
Re: Larry Bird Is Better Than Michael Jordan
however...give bird jordans body and he would have won 10+ rings
Give Bird Kobes body and he wins 7-8 rings as well
Maybe Bird's game develops entirely differently.
Bird learned all his moves and fakes and those shots where he just needed a bit of space because he wasn't jumping over people. So maybe he doesn't spend any time on that in high school or college.
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