Report: Monta Ellis Trade Imminent

[flipogb]

Surprised the Lakers are interested.

without Phil, the type of players the Lakers will like and won't like will be different

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Tony Parker
Dejaun Blair
Richard Jefferson
29th pick

for

Monta Ellis
Andris Biedrins
11th pick

Are you aware that Beidrins sucks and has a VERY ugly contract. That is a negative thing. You have Spurs giving up too much for such a shitty contract.
Also, Warriors already have a PG that they want to build around.

[Smoke117]

Curious question: If he does somehow get traded to the Lakers and ends up starting with Kobe as a Guard...is this an upgrade...or a downgrade defensively from Derek Fisher? Tough one no?

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Curious question: If he does somehow get traded to the Lakers and ends up starting with Kobe as a Guard...is this an upgrade...or a downgrade defensively from Derek Fisher? Tough one no?

at this point, it is probably a wash.
Ellis can learn to play better defense. Plus, with Mike Brown, it will be all about defense.

[Kellogs4toniee]

Yeah, you definitely have down syndrome.

Ok i'll excuse the personal insult and move on to something resembling an actual conversation.

I don't see why it's so outrageous. Ellis is only 25, and Gasol is 30 with much MUCH more mileage on him from both domestic and international play. Contractual and monetary-wise Gasol is a much higher paid player than Ellis. I can see Ellis working very well in the Lakers system with Ellis as the scoring first point guard, and all signs with the new ownership is that Bynum is the untouchable big guy.

[Toizumi]

Seems every athletic SF that plays defense is often compared to Pippen.

He's similar to Pippen in that he is lengthy, solid defensively and has a nice overall game offensively. His game certainly resembles Pippen's from time to time.. only Pippen did what he did much much much better on both ends of the floor.

Except for LA, Crash and maybe Wes Matthews, nobody on the Blazers roster should be untouchable right now. Giving up Miller and Batum seems a bit much... Eventhough Monta is great. I like having some good two way players and players that can be glue guys. I might be overrating the Blazers players a bit here though. Batum is expendable mayb, since we have Gerald Wallace.

I don't know.. I say, get a GM first.

[Wonder Bread Kid]

Are you aware that Beidrins sucks and has a VERY ugly contract. That is a negative thing. You have Spurs giving up too much for such a shitty contract.
Also, Warriors already have a PG that they want to build around.

Beidrins contract and shit play >>>>>> Richard Jefferson.

[DirtySanchez]

Jerry West has stressed that the Warriors need size first.
Ellis is their biggest trade chip so in a way a trade for A.I. does not make much sense.

[bagelred]

Mark Jackson pointing at Ellis:

"Momma, there goes that man!!!"

[bagelred]

I thought Batum was untouchable?

That's all we heard from Blazer fans for two years, "next Scottie Pippen".

[Toizumi]

Why did Portland get rid of Pritchard anyway?

Personal issues/differences with the ownership was cited as the reason back then. They also said that, eventhough some great moves were made during his tenure, he wasn't responsible for some big moves that went down while he was the GM. Some sources around the league said that he was pretty much an *ss in trade discussions as well I believe.

So we hire Rich Cho.. who makes basicly one big move, which was getting Gerald Wallace, in a great trade.. and we fire him after just one season, because ownership doesnt share his view
I don't know what's going on in the FO, but Paul Allen seems like a b*tch.. firing GM's that have been sorta succesfull (not dissapointing at all), haven't made many bad moves (well Pritchard got some injury riddled players, but still) and that aren't hated by the fans (liked by most even).

Other teams stick with GMs that are hated by their own fanbase and let them do their thing untill they fail. IMO ownership should get involved once they see things go really bad..
Cho didnt make many moves yet.. and definitely no bad ones. You hire a guy, who has a vision and after a year, you have different views?
Seems to me like Paul Allen just fired both Pritchard and Cho because he couldnt get along with them too well..

[GOBB]

Interesting stuff about the Blazers FO drama. I'd take Pritchard here over Ed Stefanski today.

Ok i'll excuse the personal insult and move on to something resembling an actual conversation.

I don't see why it's so outrageous. Ellis is only 25, and Gasol is 30 with much MUCH more mileage on him from both domestic and international play. Contractual and monetary-wise Gasol is a much higher paid player than Ellis. I can see Ellis working very well in the Lakers system with Ellis as the scoring first point guard, and all signs with the new ownership is that Bynum is the untouchable big guy.

So you trade a skilled big man for an undersized guard? Thats not bright. And you dont see whats outrageous about it when teams in the NBA are craving, starving of a big man like Gasol? Atleast think stuff out. Getting rid of Gasol (or both incl Odom) for Monta Ellis is silly. I hope you werent the one nixing a trade of Noah/Deng for Melo. It just wouldnt add up.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

from another site:
Ellis, Biedrins ugly contract, #11 pick
for
Gasol, Ebanks, Fisher (who then retires, thus cap relief), 2 2nd round picks

[LJJ]

I don't think any of the deals posted are remotely close enough to bring back Ellis, except the Iguodala deal.

A young 25-5 player is going to bring back more than Nicolas Batum, sorry.

[Crown&Coke]

from another site:
Ellis, Biedrins ugly contract, #11 pick
for
Gasol, Ebanks, Fisher (who then retires, thus cap relief), 2 2nd round picks

I love the Mississippi Bullet, but you never trade big for small. And Biedrins is whack (Hold out for Lee who's contract is not as bad considering his value) But if Ellis gets into a Lakers jersey, I will be happy. He gets a bad rap for his defense but remember the dude is checking off guards as Steph Curry gets the PG assignment. Dude is giving up 20-40 lbs every night. and last year he didn't complain once about it.

I think GS is moving him for Iggy and Speights, Speights is in the dog house for whatever reason (well, other than not reboudning and not playing any defense )