How far would the Warriors get if they had to play honest ball against the 1995-96 Bulls?

[ArbitraryWater]

this warriors team is having massive issues with a houston team that don't even really play "basketball"

they just fish for fouls

they've never really looked unbeatable, it's just that the competition is so bad that it is what it is

westbrick and durant should have beaten them a few years ago

what a load of bs

even these 18, 19 warriors which are beatable (only by the rockets, that is, an all time team) are still the best team of the decade

[paksat]

... that's a completely different team from this core however. Also why are we acting like durant/westbrook wasnt an elite duo back then lol. Fishing for fouls is cheap but super effective(no play is more efficient than getting fouled on a 3pt attempt)

can't be the GOAT team or even close if you almost get rolled like that even IF westbrick/durant were an elite duo

they certainly weren't that elite, how many rings did they gather while playing together?

regardless.. you can't count on curry when the pressure is on, that leaves KD basically doing everything on his own ( kinda like what he's been doing actually.. )

let's not forget this "same" team basically lost to two people in l39ron and kyrie.

[paksat]

what a load of bs

even these 18, 19 warriors which are beatable (only by the rockets, that is, an all time team) are still the best team of the decade

oh yeah.. with you guys they're all ALL TIME teams, especially if l39ron lost to them

[1987_Lakers]

Agree with this post in a sense that RS record doesn't determine the "greatest team". The greatest teams faced other great teams/players in the Playoffs and won. 2015 & 2017 Warriors didn't really face anyone good in the Playoffs to even call them the greatest team. They ran through an injured Western Conference and played a much weaker team in the Finals.

2017 Cavs are better than any Finals team MJ went up against.

[3ball]

2017 Cavs are better than any Finals team MJ went up against.

Clippers took 2 games off the Durant Warriors

Harden beat them last year if not for injury

MJ would destroy these soft-ass Warriors because he was the most unbeatable player in history when he had the minimal help that everyone needs to win - he never lost with a 1 or 2 seed (6-0), while everyone else did (Kareem lost 9 times, bird/lebron/magic 6+ times each)

So MJ was the most unbeatable player ever, aka goat

[1987_Lakers]

Clippers took 2 games off the Durant Warriors

Harden beat them last year if not for injury

MJ would destroy these soft-ass Warriors because he was the most unbeatable player in history when he had the minimal help that everyone needs to win - he never lost with a 1 or 2 seed (6-0), while everyone else did (Kareem lost 9 times, bird/lebron/magic 6+ times each)

So MJ was the most unbeatable player ever, aka goat

And the Pacers who's best player was Reggie Miller aka the modern day Klay took MJ and the Bulls to 7 games in 1998.

[NBAGOAT]

can't be the GOAT team or even close if you almost get rolled like that even IF westbrick/durant were an elite duo

they certainly weren't that elite, how many rings did they gather while playing together?

regardless.. you can't count on curry when the pressure is on, that leaves KD basically doing everything on his own ( kinda like what he's been doing actually.. )

let's not forget this "same" team basically lost to two people in l39ron and kyrie.

curry did fine more than fine in 15,17, and 18. I'm more than fine counting on him when the pressure is on. Maybe them losing to the cavs means they were pretty damn great too. Lot of great teams have basically lost to two people.

If westbrook/durant arent great, than your standards are too high. Are stockton/malone not a great duo either?

[72-10]

2017 Cavs are better than any Finals team MJ went up against.

96 Seattle was pretty deep - the whole starting lineup got double figures, and I count 6 top 300 players.

[72-10]

And the Pacers who's best player was Reggie Miller aka the modern day Klay took MJ and the Bulls to 7 games in 1998.

98 Bulls weren't nearly as good as 96. Old team was now tired, Pip had played in 96 Olympics, Pip was injured, Rodman missed lots of games due to his antics, Pacers were peaking with Smits, Mark Jackson and both Davises. Miller gotw away with a push.

[Soundwave]

Not only that, DJ & Ainge didn't dunk at all for the Celtics, yet they swept MJ twice.

3 ball using the "they can't dunk" argument just shows how dumb he is.

They beat the "early rebuild" version of the Bulls that sucked and a were led by a very young Jordan who was still earning his stripes in the league.

That's not the same as "The Bulls" that would eventually demolish the Pistons in 4 straight with Jordan as the defacto best finisher and game closer in the league. And the Pistons gave the Celtics everything they could handle and then some.

[Smoke117]

98 Bulls weren't nearly as good as 96. Old team was now tired, Pip had played in 96 Olympics, Pip was injured, Rodman missed lots of games due to his antics, Pacers were peaking with Smits, Mark Jackson and both Davises.

That 2000 Pacer team was nothing special at all. The league in 98 was really weak in general. Expansion had really thinned down the talent and all the 90s stars were basically aging out. This would pretty much continue into the early 2000s.

[3ball]

And the Pacers who's best player was Reggie Miller aka the modern day Klay took MJ and the Bulls to 7 games in 1998.

Pacers were great at playing that brand of ball (mostly 2-pointers) and would blow out the Warriors by record amount under that format

Infact, an average 90's team would blow away the Warriors under that format

[Soundwave]

And the Pacers who's best player was Reggie Miller aka the modern day Klay took MJ and the Bulls to 7 games in 1998.

They took a gassed, old version of the Bulls to 7.

The third championship of a threepeat is an incredibly physically taxing, now factoring in the Bulls were already an old team.

And the Pacers were a decent squad too. OK Reggie = Klay if you want, but Rik Smith, the Davis brothers, Mark Jackson, and Jalen Rose were all good players.

It's not like it was "Reggie Miller + scrubs".

[NBAGOAT]

They beat the "early rebuild" version of the Bulls that sucked and a were led by a very young Jordan who was still earning his stripes in the league.

That's not the same as "The Bulls" that would eventually demolish the Pistons in 4 straight with Jordan as the defacto best finisher and game closer in the league. And the Pistons gave the Celtics everything they could handle and then some.

you cite "not the same as the Bulls" and then act like the 91 Pistons were the same as their 80s teams either(yes even 87). They did beat Boston tbf... who were old and had a hobbled Bird at the end of his career. Come on now.

[Soundwave]

I don't think the Bulls would "destroy" the Warriors or anything crazy like that.

If they played each other like 4 or 5 series' I could see the Bulls winning maybe 3 and the Warriors winning 2.

The issue with the Warriors is I think Steph and Klay can be taken out of their games and mentally rattled.

KD not so much, but if you can rattle Steph and Klay, the door definitely starts to open to beating them.

Steph, while a great player, also does some mind bogglingly stupid things when things are not going his way. And Rodman would make Draymond lose his damn mind.

Mentally the Warriors are not as tough as the Bulls, not close. They may have more talent up and down the roster, but so did probably the 1996 Magic and that's didn't end so well for them.