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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer
    how can you be scared of your rings

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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay
    how can you be scared of your rings
    No one has an answer...

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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCorporation
    ***UPDATE***

    MJ stans, please fill out your survey. Speak it into existence, I want to know. What was Jordan's best Finals win? Don't be scared now


    SuperDuper: STILL SHOOK
    TheMan: STILL SHOOK
    3ball: Utah Jazz (lmao, shoulda stayed shook)
    Leviathan: STILL SHOOK
    Phoenix: STILL SHOOK
    Ego: STILL SHOOK
    TheCorporation: 92 Blazers (Only good SG he ever faced during entire run)
    Space Jam 2: 96 Sonics even tho Kemp outplayed MJ
    Lost Cause: STILL SHOOK
    And1allday: 97 Jazz (before Hornacek 10 ppg fell off a cliff)
    72-10: STILL SHOOK
    Real SkipBayless: Phoenix Suns
    Samurai Shook: STILL SHOOK
    SnaggleBot: STILL SHOOK

    Wow

    This is it?

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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

    invasion of the incels

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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

    I found out why


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    Bump.

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    Bump.


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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

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    I found out why

    goat mode

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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rico2016

    How can you be embarassed of your own rings?
    Everyone praises 6/6 as goat - no one is embarassed - you're literally making things up because you can't handle the goatness of 2 three-peats... You can't understand how Lebron failed to 3-peat with 3 HOF teammates in 2014, and Curry did the same in 2019, yet MJ got 2 three-peats with just 1 all-star.. ..... this makes you

    Ultimately, MJ won 6 rings in the 2-star vs 2-star format we see now - so it's the same thing as Kawhi winning 6 rings with Paul George (while having the highest PPG and efficiency rating of all-time).

    And compare the Big 2's that MJ faced to what Lebron will face this year - Kawhi/PG are the best Big 2 that Lebron will face, but they're less than Shaq/Penny and Magic/Worthy... And MJ faced a ton of great Big 2's like Stockton/Malone, Kemp/Payton, Barkley/KJ and many more.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rico2016

    comp
    MJ played in a 2-star vs 2-star format, so those teams can't be compared to the 3-star vs. 3 star format that Lebron played in.. But if we gave MJ and his opponents a 3rd star, they would blow today's big 3's away

    Lebron's big 3's mean that he only faced actual talent deficits in 07', 15', 17' and 18' Finals (losing mostly via sweep or record amount each time, so the worst anyone could do)..

    the only time he overcame an actual talent deficit was the 07' ECF, and MJ overcame bigger ones then that (see stats below)


    Quote Originally Posted by Rico2016

    wins against better talent
    2007 Cavs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] #7 SRS.. 50 wins.. 2 seed
    2007 [COLOR="White"]t[/COLOR]DET:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] #6 SRS.. 53 wins.. 1 seed

    1989 Bulls:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] #10 SRS.. 47 wins.. 6 seed
    1989 Cavs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] [COLOR="White"]n[/COLOR]#1 SRS.. 57 wins.. 3 seed

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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

    Which was Mike's best ring then?

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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

    Quote Originally Posted by And1AllDay
    how can you be scared of your rings
    Jordan fans

    SPEAK UP

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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

    It's now a league of Big 2's and Lebron's best comp is therefore Kawhi/PG

    But Shaq/Penny and Magic/Worthy > Kawhi/PG, so MJ's rings are better than the 2020 ring - and everyone says 2020 is the greatest season in a quarter century

    So MJ gets more goat as time goes on, as the true goat should.. His rings were amazing, aka better than anything we'll see this year (Shaq/Penny and Magic/Worthy > Kawhi/PG)

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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    It's now a league of Big 2's and Lebron's best comp is therefore Kawhi/PG

    But Shaq/Penny and Magic/Worthy > Kawhi/PG, so MJ's rings are better than the 2020 ring - and everyone says 2020 is the greatest season in a quarter century

    So MJ gets more goat as time goes on, as the true goat should.. His rings were amazing, aka better than anything we'll see this year (Shaq/Penny and Magic/Worthy > Kawhi/PG)
    Thoughts on the value of Lebron's 2013 and 2016 rings?

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    Default Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?

    Quote Originally Posted by RealSkipBayless
    Thoughts on the value of Lebron's 2013 and 2016 rings?
    those 2 rings mean everything to his career

    he probably wouldn't be top 10 without them - he'd be 1-9 in the Finals and people would be looking into what's wrong with his game, as I have...

    Unlike the media, I haven't forgotten that he loses both Finals if not for teammate shots, so he could easily be a 1-ring bum if not for luck... And a 1-ring caliber player is in line with the conclusions that my analysis of his game yields (a CP3-style ball-dominator and skillset that avoided the career-losing fate of other ball-dominators by team-hopping for the extra talent that the style needs to win, aka a 3rd star)

    Of course, lebron was scared at the start of those series and played horrifically, so the team had a 2-1 deficit and needed teammates to save him late in the series - he averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games in 2013 (2-1 deficit), and 24 ppg with 6 TO thru 4 games in 2016 (3-1 deficit)... So it was a repeat of 2011 all over again, but teammates saved him this time
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