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    Damon Stoudamire/Rod Strickland/Greg Anthony
    Steve Smith/Bonzi Wells
    Scottie Pippen/Stacey Augmon/Detlef Schrempf
    Rasheed Wallace
    Arvydas Sabonis/Dale Davis

    Swept in the first round...
    yeah they faced the eventual champs. but still dissapointing. Especially after the succes we had in 2000 (eliminated in game 7 of the WCF). We had Shawn Kemp on the roster as well.. but he was fat and lazy and sucked. Dissapointing. Dale Davis was coming of an All star campaign that year but wasnt that great either. Stacked roster.. but dissapointed heavily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateOfMind12
    You could replace Tracy McGrady with Vince Carter on that team. The Rockets planned on trading Tmac for VC near the trade deadline but Tmac ended up getting season ending injury without telling anyone in Houston so the trade never went through.

    That team wouldn't even have done well with Tmac. Tmac was a cancerous player for them by then. They were like 20-15 when he played that season but they were 33-14 without him.

    Tmac was and still is an immature player that doesn't care or know a thing about winning or teamwork.
    Yea, like Vince Carter wasn't cancerous...

    07 Mavs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat Like A Bosh
    Yea, like Vince Carter wasn't cancerous...

    07 Mavs.
    How is VC cancerous? Please elaborate...

    VC was averaging 21/5/5 during the season this trade was being discussed. TMac was averaging 15 PPG.

    VC might be viewed on as not giving his 100% a lot of times, but he never missed a game due to injury, he never complained in the locker room, he acted as a role model to younger players, and he's one of the most professional professionals in the game. VC bears no drama to teamates. So you sir are a moron.

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    webber and bibby's sac kings. i blame that choker peja

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    Alston and Head were traded/waived before the playoffs so they shouldn't really be counted as part of the roster. You're right, if not for injuries that 08-09 team could have been great. They were 10 man deep. They had a dominant center in Yao, another dominant PF in Scola, two elite wing defenders, and Brooks who was a deadly shooter with unlimited range. With McGrady that team had scorers on all 5 positions.

    The bench had...

    Landry- for some reason Landry as a Rocket always played extremely good against the Lakers. A good energy guy off the bench who could get you 15 points on fast break points and put-back baskets alone. Landry also had a decent mid-range game.

    Wafer - he easily had the best season of his career with Houston. Guy was a lights out shooter from 3 and could also put the ball on the floor. Could put the ball in the basket with ease. Too bad his temper got the best of him. It cost him an extension w/ Houston.

    Mutumbo - Nothing to be said here. A defensive center who protected the paint and was an offensive rebounding machine. A GREAT center to have off the bench.

    Hayes -

    I had a discussion awhile back with a few posters who thought McGrady would not have significantly contributed to that 08-09 Rockets team if healthy. ( - I lol'd too.) Injuries took a toll on McGrady that year. In fact, after his knee surgery he never got back to that all star level we were used to watching. Houston was better without him that year because he was basically playing with one leg. But a healthy McGrady? No doubt in my mind that team would have gone all the way to the finals. It's a shame really. That team had scoring threats all over the place, two 7 footers who could protect the paint, elite wing defenders, scoring AND defense off the bench. One of the most complete teams I've ever seen.

    Another 'what if' for Houston.

    IF everyone was healthy, in their prime, and and hadn't had any previous injuries thats a very good team.
    Yao fell off substantially that year, T-Mac was never the same as he was in Orlando. Alston was getting on and was never great in the first place. Mutombo was 41, Artest was on the start of his downswing, Lowry wasn't what he would become, Brooks hadn't yet broken out (and then swiftly regressed back) and Hayes had an off year (at least numbers wise, his D was probably about where it always was)

    Of those players who was genuinely peaking that year? Landry.

    It had a lot rotation calibre players but not a lot of exceptional (and healthy ones).
    Yao didn't fall off substantially that year. He was still the 2nd best center in the league behind Dwight. McGrady though not as good as in Orlando days was still an all star caliber player in 08. (He fell of dramatically in 09. Had a few surgeries after the 08 season including knee surgery and never really recuperated.) Mutumbo was old but still a great center to have off the bench. He was beasting defensively in the first round against Portland before the injury. Hayes didn't have an off year, that was one of his best seasons as a Rocket. Numbers will never tell you what Hayes contributes to the team. Yao, Battier, Brooks, Hayes, and Landry were still in their prime. Artest wasn't. But that team was stacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIP2000
    2003-04 Dallas Mavericks, who got bounced in the first round:

    Dirk Nowitzki
    Michael Finley
    Steve Nash
    Antawn Jamison
    Antoine Walker
    Tony Delk
    Josh Howard
    Marquis Daniels
    Danny Fortson
    Well. Nash was hurt and Finley had declined quite a bit...and of course playing run and gun with no center and no defense doesn't win anything.

    Here is what those guys did in the playoffs:

    Dirk - 27 points 57% TS
    Finley - 13 points 45% TS
    Nash - 14 points 46% TS
    Jamison - 13 points 51% TS
    Delk - Never scored in the playoffs
    Howard - 5 points 33% TS
    Daniels - 16 points 47% TS
    Fortson - Didn't play in the playoffs
    Walker - 10 points 38% TS

    That team had a lot of offensive firepower, but pretty much everyone other than Dirk sucked in the playoffs. Jamison and Daniels played alright. But that team couldn't stop anyone on the perimeter and had Najera for 11 minutes a game at center.

    Offensively stacked on paper? Absolutely. Stacked overall? Absolutely not.

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    really tho

    that Rockets team wasnt that good. Everybody were either young or old besides Yao.

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    Payton
    Kobe
    Malone
    Shaq.....Should've won a ring or two

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    Im a huge Nick Van Exel fan but there were 2 teams he was apart of that were fairly stacked and didnt meet expectations:

    1998 Lakers:

    PG Van Exel (all-star)
    SG Jones (all-star)
    SF Fox
    PF Horry
    C Shaq (all-star

    Kobe (all-star) dont be fooled by the all-star selection, Kobe was a good 6th man but not even close to what he become.
    Elden Campbell
    Derek Fisher
    Sean Rooks
    Jon Barry
    Corie Blount
    Mario Bennett

    Got swept by Utah in WCF, Van Exel and Del Harris were feuding, EC was lost behind Shaq, Fisher was young and EJ was never real great in the playoffs.

    2006 San Antonio Spurs

    PG Parker
    SG Ginobili
    SF Bowen
    PF Duncan
    C Nesterovic

    Finley
    Horry
    Brent Barry
    Van Exel
    Udrih
    Oberto
    Muhommad
    Marks


    Lost to Dallas in 7 in WCSF, Ginobili missed a G7 end of regulation lay up and they went on to lose in OT. Duncan had an average season, he was injured and playing through it the most part, Van Exel's knees were done and he hurt his shooting elbow as well. Parker had a great season but Horry and Finley were starting to decline quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIP2000
    2003-04 Dallas Mavericks, who got bounced in the first round:

    Dirk Nowitzki
    Michael Finley
    Steve Nash
    Antawn Jamison
    Antoine Walker
    Tony Delk
    Josh Howard
    Marquis Daniels
    Danny Fortson
    toine was with the Mavs?? holy cow

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    The Miami Heat of the last two years.

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    1992 - 95' Magic

    a core group of ..

    Shaq
    Penny (didn't arrive till 93')
    Nick Anderson
    Dennis Scott

    throw in..

    Horace Grant
    Scott Skiles
    Tree Rollins
    Brian Shaw


    10' Cavs

    Lebron
    Shaq
    Mo Williams
    Antwan jamison
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaWolf24
    10' Cavs

    Lebron
    Shaq
    Mo Williams
    Antwan jamison
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas

    Shaq and Z = Done
    Mo Williams = Bench player
    Jamson = destoyed by KG

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    '11 and '12 Miami Heat

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    Quote Originally Posted by nashwade
    toine was with the Mavs?? holy cow
    Yea, Celtics traded him for Raef LaFrentz. One of the first big moves Danny Ainge made if I recall. LaFrentz was later traded for Theo Ratliff and Sebastian Telfair, who were used to get KG, so it worked out OK in the end.

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