Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?

[Akrazotile]

I only ask because for a Top 12 player I find this very underwhelming, even tho I am a big (thick) fan of his.

It's not really the same as Pau failing in the playoffs, because nobody has Pau ranked even in the top 25. So nobody would expect Pau to be winning playoff series without HOFers around him.

But I mean in that same conference, guys like Paul, Melo, Nash all won playoff series without any HOFers on their teams.

Why come didn't Kobe never do that?


Thanks in advance for your insights guys and here's to a great discussion

[scuzzy]

Hey I don't mean to derail the thread but...


Has Lebron James ever missed the playoffs?

[SouBeachTalents]

Hey I don't mean to derail the thread but...


Has Lebron James ever missed the playoffs?

His first two seasons

[warriorfan]

Kobe stuck it out to build with his originally drafted team while LeBron jumped ship to collude

/End of thread

[scuzzy]

His first two seasons

Interesting, One more question


Did Kobe start his first two seasons?

[TomCat]

collusion and crying

/thread

[I<3NBA]

Kobe is not that great. We all know that.

[Im Still Ballin]

[RRR3]

What series was Kobe the favorite in during that time period?

He did what he could with a weak supporting cast.

[SouBeachTalents]

What series was Kobe the favorite in during that time period?

He did what he could with a weak supporting cast.

Dude came within an eyelash of beating the Suns in '06

[RoundMoundOfReb]

What series was Kobe the favorite in during that time period?

He did what he could with a weak supporting cast.

Against the suns....when he was up 3-1

[ShawkFactory]

Common sense should lead you to the answer.

I'm pulling for you buddy

[Kblaze8855]

Players considered better than Kobe have led more talent than he had those years to worse records...

[SouBeachTalents]

Players considered better than Kobe have led more talent than he had those years to worse records...

Any specific examples, just curious

[scuzzy]

Any specific examples, just curious

2012 + 2013 Lakers