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03-23-2019, 06:46 PM
#106
9x All Defensive 1st
Re: Why couldn't Jordan score as many points as Lebron?
Originally Posted by Manny98
I didn't lie lol
LeBrons PER for his championships rings is 29.5 rounded up
Jordans PER is 28.5 and if you include only his first three peat it's 29.8
And why are you leaving out LeBron having a better defensive rating and +/- than MJ
So Jordan has a slight edge in ppg due to taking much more shots whilst being less efficient in the process whilst LeBron has the clear edge in everything else (defense,rebounding,assists) LeBron wins again
That boy Manny always bringing the heat
KingManny98
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03-23-2019, 06:46 PM
#107
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't Jordan score as many points as Lebron?
Originally Posted by And1AllDay
Manny doesnt lie, he is including 96-98 obv...
What are Mikes 96, 97, 98 numbers please
You aint tryin to say that
Thunder, Spurs, Warriors = HIV Magic, Drexler/Porter, Barkely Suns are you? I dont think you've gone that far off the deep end (yet) im giving you benefit of the doubt.
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Mike beat weak teams, can we agree on that much?[/COLOR]
The bad boys had more talent than the 16' warriors (3x all-stars at every starting spot... Isiah/dumars/rodman > curry/klay/dray).. bad boys were b2b champs; lebron never beat a b2b champ
And MJ did it with one less all-star teammate than lebron had.. give those bulls an extra all-star and they'd sweep the Warriors easily
Then he beat the Shaq/Duncan killers, the Shaq/Penny Magic, Riley's 60-win Knicks, and zion/payton/schrempf Sonics.. All in dominating fashion... And again, with one less star teammate..
lebron doesn't compare.. who did he beat? An old spurs team where he played like shit for 6 games (23 on 43%), so he needed ray to force game 7?.. the warriors < bad boys as described above?.. a baby okc team with harden warming the bench?.. none of that compares to what MJ faced..
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Last edited by 3ball; 03-23-2019 at 06:49 PM.
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03-23-2019, 06:49 PM
#108
9x All Defensive 1st
Re: Why couldn't Jordan score as many points as Lebron?
Originally Posted by 3ball
The bad boys had more talent than the 16' warriors (3x all-stars at every starting spot... Isiah/dumars/rodman > curry/klay/dray).. bad boys were b2b champs; lebron never beat a b2b champ
And MJ did it with one less all-star.. give those bulls an extra all-star and they'd sweep the Warriors easily
Then he beat the Shaq/Duncan killers, the Shaq/Penny Magic, Riley's 60-win Knicks, and zion/payton/schrempf Sonics.. All in dominating fashion... And again, with one less star teammate..
lebron doesn't compare.. who did he beat? An old spurs team where he played like shit for 6 games (23 on 43%), so he needed ray to force game 7?.. the warriors < bad boys as described above?.. a baby okc team with harden warming the bench?.. none of that compares to what MJ faced..
What did LeBron do in game 7 vs Kawhi (not Hornacek) Finals 2013?
What was the best team Jordan beat in the Finals?
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03-23-2019, 06:49 PM
#109
NBA Legend
Re: Why couldn't Jordan score as many points as Lebron?
Jordan averages 33ppg on 49% shooting in the playoffs
Lebron averages 29ppg on 49% shooting in the playoffs
Jordan also has more 40 and 50 point games in the playoffs.
The end.
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03-23-2019, 06:50 PM
#110
9x All Defensive 1st
Re: Why couldn't Jordan score as many points as Lebron?
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Jordan averages 33ppg on 49% shooting in the playoffs
Lebron averages 29ppg on 49% shooting in the playoffs
Jordan also has more 40 and 50 point games in the playoffs.
The end.
Sounds like a 6'6 Iverson with A LOT of help to me (King Pippen)
Rebounds? Assists? Defense?
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03-23-2019, 06:52 PM
#111
NBA Legend
Re: Why couldn't Jordan score as many points as Lebron?
Originally Posted by And1AllDay
Sounds like a 6'6 Iverson to me
Rebounds? Assists? Defense?
Yeah.
Like Iverson, LeBron was less efficient than Jordan (as seen above).
But hey? Not everyone can be like Mike. Bron gets credit for trying
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03-23-2019, 06:56 PM
#112
9x All Defensive 1st
Re: Why couldn't Jordan score as many points as Lebron?
Should we just make a easy to read checklist for small brain people then
more points = lbj
less shots = lbj
better comp = lbj
most 1st round exits = mj
more steals = lbj
more game winners = lbj
higher elimination game ppg = lbj
better turover to assist ratio = lbj
most 30 pt games = lbj
most 30-5-5 games = lbj
more rebounds = lbj
more assists = lbj
anything else?
I mean geeze at this point is Mike even top 5? Kareem and Bird are knocking on MJ's door
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03-23-2019, 06:59 PM
#113
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't Jordan score as many points as Lebron?
Originally Posted by And1AllDay
What did LeBron do in game 7 vs Kawhi (not Hornacek) Finals 2013?
What was the best team Jordan beat in the Finals?
Kawhi was a 2nd year baby like migraine pippen and his 9 points in 89' and 90'
Yet uber-prime lebron still laid an egg with 23 on 43% thru 6 games, and needed ray to force game 7
THAT DOESN'T COMPARE TO MIKE
let alone uber-prime Mike, who wasn't capable of averaging 23 a game over any 6 game stretch
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03-23-2019, 07:28 PM
#114
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Why couldn't Jordan score as many points as Lebron?
Originally Posted by And1AllDay
Should we just make a easy to read checklist for small brain people then
more points = lbj
less shots = lbj
better comp = lbj
most 1st round exits = mj
more steals = lbj
more game winners = lbj
higher elimination game ppg = lbj
better turover to assist ratio = lbj
most 30 pt games = lbj
[COLOR="DarkRed"]most 30-5-5 games = lbj[/COLOR]
more rebounds = lbj
more assists = lbj
anything else?
I mean geeze at this point is Mike even top 5? Kareem and Bird are knocking on MJ's door
MJ is the only guy to average 30/5/5 for a CAREER in the regular season... playoffs.... or Finals
Here's some other singular accomplishments:
- only player with 4+ fmvp (he has 6)
- only player at 30/5/5 for regular season... And playoffs... and Finals
- all-time leader in PPG, including a 4-point margin in playoffs
- 10 scoring titles (record)
- #1 all-time championship frequency since the 3-point line began (6 in 15 yrs.. 40.0%)
- only MVP to win 70+ and the championship
- only player that is top 2 in career PER, VORP, BPM, WS/48 for regular season and playoffs
- highest frequency of combined 1st team all-nba and 1st team all-defense - 19 selections in 10 seasons
- only HOF that was never outscored by a teammate in a playoff series (MJ led team by average margin of 15.4 ppg over 2nd option)
- only MJ/Kobe won multiple rings with 1 all-star teammate except Shaq (who had Kobe) and Hakeem (when MJ was out of the league
- only top 10 candidate that never lost as the 1 or 2 seed (6-0), aka most unbeatable player, aka goat (everyone else lost many times with 1 or 2 seeds)
- Best winning stats ever - 33.7 ppg and 6.6 apg in 91-93' PO (27.2 and 7.2 for lebron in 12/13/16' PO)
- Best losing stats ever - 44 ppg against champion 86' celtics and their #1 defense; 37/7/7 in 90' playoffs
- only player to win scoring title & dpoy in same season (88').. he also won MVP that yr
- only perimeter player to win scoring title and title in same season (6 times)
- all-time playoff records for single game pts, series ppg, and Finals ppg
- only player to sweep all 3 MVP's, scoring title, 1st team all-D, and ring in same season
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