Have any of you watch Larry Bird play? Not that impressive...

[iamgine]

The other day I watched a full playoff game between Celtics and Lakers.

Certainly Bird was a great shooter and very fast passer. And like any other great player, he'd have his moments of greatness.

but

He'd have long stretches where he didn't even touch the ball. Like straight up they don't even include him for many possessions. Like he's Caldwell Pope or something. Wth is up with that.

[DocSlam]

He played with Hall of Fame guys in the front court. They need their touches. Carrying the load alone is not smart. You need a great team to win.

[Bawkish]

The other day I watched a full playoff game between Celtics and Lakers.

Certainly Bird was a great shooter and very fast passer. And like any other great player, he'd have his moments of greatness.

but

He'd have long stretches where he didn't even touch the ball. Like straight up they don't even include him for many possessions. Like he's Caldwell Pope or something. Wth is up with that.

you just watched too much Lebron ball

he's not ball dominant like Magic or Isiah Thomas or MJ for that matter (in the 80s)

[bullettooth]

He played with Hall of Fame guys in the front court. They need their touches. Carrying the load alone is not smart. You need a great team to win.

This. Otherwise you end up 3*/9.

[Reggie43]

Having the ability to play offball and letting his teammates work and get their touches is probably one of the best facets of his game. To me thats what separates him from his peers, having the ability to impact the game without the ball in his hands.

[jstern]

Sometimes you just have to let your guys do their thing. That's a very effective tool. Be more of a decoy, off the ball player thus allowing your teammates to flourish when they're feeling it. Compared to no type of flow ever developing because the star player always needs the ball in their hands and dribble, dribble in every possession.

One style promotes dynasty level team development. The other style gets you more stats, better numbers on paper, but at the expense of the rest of the players in your team not reaching their full potential. And at the expense of your team not reaching dynasty level, even with multiple superstars in the team.

[TheMan]

The other day I watched a full playoff game between Celtics and Lakers.

Certainly Bird was a great shooter and very fast passer. And like any other great player, he'd have his moments of greatness.

but

He'd have long stretches where he didn't even touch the ball. Like straight up they don't even include him for many possessions. Like he's Caldwell Pope or something. Wth is up with that.

Typical LeBron Stan take...he played with very capable teammates, no need to hog the ball like LeHog.

[Round Mound]

Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maS9smxRubI

[Psileas]

That's pre-90's basketball in general. It wasn't required that the star player had the ball in his hands all the time and it wasn't a given that he'd be getting all the shots he wanted if he was hot. There were games in which Bird would go for 40+ on amazing shooting and the Celtics would still have lots of plays run without him.

[RealSkipBayless]

Typical LeBron Stan take...he played with very capable teammates, no need to hog the ball like LeHog.

Why are you into trannies?

[TheMan]

[QUOTE=RealSkipBayless]Why are you into trannies?
Da fukk are you talking about, numbnuts?

Fukk outta here Simon, you wouldn't know a tranny from a real female anyways you neckbearded virgin fggot...

[Manny98]

This. Otherwise you end up 3*/9.

[Phoenix]

Yes, and then consider his peak MVP numbers were something like 28/10/7. Volume stats achieved through not dominating the ball is a foreign concept to fans coming up on modern perimeter players.

[Bawkish]

if im not mistaken, he's basically the 1st player to register the 50/40/90

[superduper]

Apparently you suck if you're playing a smart brand of basketball instead of monopolizing the ball on every single offensive possession. This is what we call the Bran era and it is a very shameful era indeed.