Thibs. What the hell...

[poido123]

He's a good coach, one of the best in the league, but that is mainly on the back of his defensive schemes.


His rotations, player management and minute distribution to players I'd argue is one of the worst in the league.

For example, today's game we were down by 9 so what does he do? He brings in an offensively challenged Kirk Hinrich. What is the logic behind that?

I have been harping on about Thibs playing Rose and Brooks together for stretches in a game. Particularly when our offense gets a bit stagnant.

Why can't we see some play where Mirotic plays at the 3? Going further, why wasn't this happening when Gibson was healthy if it was an issue of being thin for big men off the bench?

Makes no sense.

I understand that McDermott has being playing like ass lately, but surely we could try and play him in the starting lineup a game or two? See if he gains confidence playing alongside players who can cover his shortcomings or even release him into space?

Second year Snell has been copping it hard also. I understand he might f.ck up a few defensive sets here and there, but he hasn't looked terrible either. Why not play him a steady 15-20 minutes every game for 10 games and see if he improves? I've seen some excellent man defense played by him before, surely he can add to that with some confidence.

I saw too much penetration from Ellis in the Dallas game, why wasn't Thibs instructing his big men to protect the hoop and at least contest the shot? I saw Gasol just stand there and watch over and over again. So fustrating.

Some excellent pick and pop, pick and roll plays today, but our defensive intensity was not consistent enough and not for long enough. Nobody helping out, nobody closing out the penetrators.

That's my rant, I'm just tired of seeing Thibs hold back the potential of this team a bit. Great defensive philosophies that has made Bulls elite on defense, but everything else not so good...I think a really good offensive assistant coach could really help.

Someone needs to tell Thibs to give Butler more rest too. Perhaps play McDermott or Snell some more minutes...

[Prometheus]

This would be a better fit for the Chicago Bulls forum, or perhaps your diary.

[poido123]

This would be a better fit for the Chicago Bulls forum, or perhaps your diary.

An original thread that doesn't consist of Kobe sucks, Lebron is a queen, Durant returned today.

You don't have to like the thread, but it might be worth discussing for some people.

[poido123]

This would be a better fit for the Chicago Bulls forum, or perhaps your diary.

I agree, it should be posted in the Bulls thread too.

[MJ(Mean John)]

He's a good coach, one of the best in the league, but that is mainly on the back of his defensive schemes.


His rotations, player management and minute distribution to players I'd argue is one of the worst in the league.

For example, today's game we were down by 9 so what does he do? He brings in an offensively challenged Kirk Hinrich. What is the logic behind that?

I have been harping on about Thibs playing Rose and Brooks together for stretches in a game. Particularly when our offense gets a bit stagnant.

Why can't we see some play where Mirotic plays at the 3? Going further, why wasn't this happening when Gibson was healthy if it was an issue of being thin for big men off the bench?

Makes no sense.

I understand that McDermott has being playing like ass lately, but surely we could try and play him in the starting lineup a game or two? See if he gains confidence playing alongside players who can cover his shortcomings or even release him into space?

Second year Snell has been copping it hard also. I understand he might f.ck up a few defensive sets here and there, but he hasn't looked terrible either. Why not play him a steady 15-20 minutes every game for 10 games and see if he improves? I've seen some excellent man defense played by him before, surely he can add to that with some confidence.

I saw too much penetration from Ellis in the Dallas game, why wasn't Thibs instructing his big men to protect the hoop and at least contest the shot? I saw Gasol just stand there and watch over and over again. So fustrating.

Some excellent pick and pop, pick and roll plays today, but our defensive intensity was not consistent enough and not for long enough. Nobody helping out, nobody closing out the penetrators.

That's my rant, I'm just tired of seeing Thibs hold back the potential of this team a bit. Great defensive philosophies that has made Bulls elite on defense, but everything else not so good...I think a really good offensive assistant coach could really help.

Someone needs to tell Thibs to give Butler more rest too. Perhaps play McDermott or Snell some more minutes...

Hmmmm... A good offensive Coach as an assistant.


Oh' wait! I've got it!

How about MIKE D'Antoni!!

[poido123]

Hmmmm... A good offensive Coach as an assistant.


Oh' wait! I've got it!

How about MIKE D'Antoni!!

He would actually make the most sense.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I don't think D'antoni would be a good fit for this Roster TBH.

[Dr.J4ever]

He's a good coach, one of the best in the league, but that is mainly on the back of his defensive schemes.


His rotations, player management and minute distribution to players I'd argue is one of the worst in the league.

For example, today's game we were down by 9 so what does he do? He brings in an offensively challenged Kirk Hinrich. What is the logic behind that?

I have been harping on about Thibs playing Rose and Brooks together for stretches in a game. Particularly when our offense gets a bit stagnant.

Why can't we see some play where Mirotic plays at the 3? Going further, why wasn't this happening when Gibson was healthy if it was an issue of being thin for big men off the bench?

Makes no sense.

I understand that McDermott has being playing like ass lately, but surely we could try and play him in the starting lineup a game or two? See if he gains confidence playing alongside players who can cover his shortcomings or even release him into space?

Second year Snell has been copping it hard also. I understand he might f.ck up a few defensive sets here and there, but he hasn't looked terrible either. Why not play him a steady 15-20 minutes every game for 10 games and see if he improves? I've seen some excellent man defense played by him before, surely he can add to that with some confidence.

I saw too much penetration from Ellis in the Dallas game, why wasn't Thibs instructing his big men to protect the hoop and at least contest the shot? I saw Gasol just stand there and watch over and over again. So fustrating.

Some excellent pick and pop, pick and roll plays today, but our defensive intensity was not consistent enough and not for long enough. Nobody helping out, nobody closing out the penetrators.

That's my rant, I'm just tired of seeing Thibs hold back the potential of this team a bit. Great defensive philosophies that has made Bulls elite on defense, but everything else not so good...I think a really good offensive assistant coach could really help.

Someone needs to tell Thibs to give Butler more rest too. Perhaps play McDermott or Snell some more minutes...

I agree with you, and have noticed this about Thibs.

When I saw Bulls fans here in ISH before the season began fondly arguing about all the offensive combinations the Bulls had available, I didn't buy it because of Thibs.

He reminds me of Coach Larry Brown a little bit when he was with the 76ers. Brown would always play the players who he thought were strongest defenders to the detriment of the offense. He did the same thing with his time with the Pacers.

Offensive players would languish in the bench in favor of 1 dimensional defensive players. That's Thibs bias, I think, just like Brown.

[poido123]

I don't think D'antoni would be a good fit for this Roster TBH.

Not as a head coach implementing all of his schemes, but I think some of his ideas might help Thibs.

I don't want to see Gasol turned into a 3 point specialist

[GoldMedallist]

You can't expect great D for a 34 years old big man if you make him play 50 minutes.

[poido123]

I agree with you, and have noticed this about Thibs.

When I saw Bulls fans here in ISH before the season began fondly arguing about all the offensive combinations the Bulls had available, I didn't buy it because of Thibs.

He reminds me of Coach Larry Brown a little bit when he was with the 76ers. Brown would always play the players who he thought were strongest defenders to the detriment of the offense. He did the same thing with his time with the Pacers.

Offensive players would languish in the bench in favor of 1 dimensional defensive players. That's Thibs bias, I think, just like Brown.

Exactly, his bias for defensive players is holding back potential offense for this team that is much needed. We need a weapon like McDermott to come on and drill shots, run around screens and open up the court. By not playing him, we limit our spacing and reduce our shooting to Dunleavy and cameo roles by rose, brooks, butler and Mirotic. Not threatening enough.

Sending a clear signal of no trust to his rookie McDermott.

How the hell will that boost his confidence? His coach thinks he deserves zero to 5 minutes a game

[SamuraiSWISH]

I've routinely said he can't see the forrest through the trees ...

[poido123]

You can't expect great D for a 34 years old big man if you make him play 50 minutes.

Very true, but this was happening throughout the game.

Ellis doesn't put up close to 40 points if the big men are contesting the hoop.

Watching the game, Gasol stood there and ignored a few drives he could of easily contested.

[Warfan]

I haven't watched many bulls games this season and none recently, but haven't they been struggling on D this season at least by their standards? What's up with that?

[miggyme1]

He's a good coach, one of the best in the league, but that is mainly on the back of his defensive schemes.


His rotations, player management and minute distribution to players I'd argue is one of the worst in the league.

For example, today's game we were down by 9 so what does he do? He brings in an offensively challenged Kirk Hinrich. What is the logic behind that?

I have been harping on about Thibs playing Rose and Brooks together for stretches in a game. Particularly when our offense gets a bit stagnant.

Why can't we see some play where Mirotic plays at the 3? Going further, why wasn't this happening when Gibson was healthy if it was an issue of being thin for big men off the bench?

Makes no sense.

I understand that McDermott has being playing like ass lately, but surely we could try and play him in the starting lineup a game or two? See if he gains confidence playing alongside players who can cover his shortcomings or even release him into space?

Second year Snell has been copping it hard also. I understand he might f.ck up a few defensive sets here and there, but he hasn't looked terrible either. Why not play him a steady 15-20 minutes every game for 10 games and see if he improves? I've seen some excellent man defense played by him before, surely he can add to that with some confidence.

I saw too much penetration from Ellis in the Dallas game, why wasn't Thibs instructing his big men to protect the hoop and at least contest the shot? I saw Gasol just stand there and watch over and over again. So fustrating.

Some excellent pick and pop, pick and roll plays today, but our defensive intensity was not consistent enough and not for long enough. Nobody helping out, nobody closing out the penetrators.

That's my rant, I'm just tired of seeing Thibs hold back the potential of this team a bit. Great defensive philosophies that has made Bulls elite on defense, but everything else not so good...I think a really good offensive assistant coach could really help.

Someone needs to tell Thibs to give Butler more rest too. Perhaps play McDermott or Snell some more minutes...

i wouldnt call hinrich offensively challenged..there is more to offense than scoring. hinrich can run the pick and roll with the best of them...true he isnt gonna blow past you like 99 percent of the guards in the league...but he has a high iq...understands angles...and is a PASS FIRST guard...something drose nor aaron brooks are