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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by Cocaine80s

    Klay would shut Jordan down with ease
    [COLOR="Blue"] ... Klay would get destroyed worse than DPOY Michael Cooper did (8-time All-Defense):
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    All Games of MJ vs. Michael Cooper, both 30+ MPG


    [COLOR="White"].........................[/COLOR]Date[COLOR="White"]............[/COLOR]MP[COLOR="White"]..........[/COLOR]FG%[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR]REB[COLOR="White"][COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR][/COLOR]AST[COLOR="White"]......[/COLOR]PTS

    Michael Jordan... 11/28/86... 45:00:00.......0.44.......10........3.........41
    Michael Cooper.. 11/28/86... 32:00:00.......0.50........3.........4.........11

    Michael Jordan... 12/20/88.. 39:00:00.......0.48........7.........8.........42
    Michael Cooper.. 12/20/88.. 30:00:00.......0.50........4.........4..........9

    Michael Jordan.... 3/21/89... 41:00:00.......0.35........8........16........21
    Michael Cooper... 3/21/89... 31:00:00.......0.67........4.........8..........9

    Michael Jordan... 12/19/89.. 44:00:00.......0.52........7.........5.........37
    Michael Cooper.. 12/19/89... 33:00:00.......0.22........4.........3.........5


    [COLOR="Red"]MJ's Averages: 35.1 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 8.0 APG, 45.2% FG[/COLOR]

    Source: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=coopemi01



    Footage of MJ vs. Cooper:

    OFF-BALL

    ISOLATIONS

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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    why is your username 3ball

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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by Cocaine80s




    Klay would shut Jordan down with ease
    I know you're trolling, but.... .... Klay isn't physically strong enough to prevent isolations from being a huge mismatch.

    He'd be several dimensions below the vastly superior, stronger athletes that MJ was accustomed to such as Reggie Lewis, Clyde Drexler, Derrick McKey, or Dennis Rodman.

    Klay is more of a ball-denier - he's never been known for strong defense in iso situations like the guys that guarded MJ such as Michael Cooper, Latrell Sprewell, Eddie Jones or Bobby Phills.. I like John Starks' chances more vs. MJ too - again, he's a better athlete than Klay, and much stronger.

    Of course, Klay can't defend the non-stop, off-ball aggression seen in the GIF above, in addition MJ's primary ballhandler and post games - Klay would become hesitant in the face of the GOAT repertoire.
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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Warriors in 5.
    Jordan is 1-9 in the playoffs without an all-time stacked team around him.

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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Wrong.

    Jason Terry doesn't play for the Warriors.
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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Lebron stans already setting up GS as some incredible force so that when the Cavs win (and I believe they will), they can start in with the "Lebron = GOAT" nonsense. Memphis wins this series with Tony Allen healthy, yet all of a sudden GS is a juggernaut. Right.
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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
    Lebron stans already setting up GS as some incredible force so that when the Cavs win (and I believe they will), they can't start in with the "Lebron = GOAT" nonsense. Memphis wins this series with Tony Allen healthy, yet all of a sudden GS is a juggernaut. Right.
    It was pretty much the same excuse after San Antonio destroyed Miami last year. Apparently they were an unstoppable force that not even Jordan could have beaten.

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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
    Lebron stans already setting up GS as some incredible force so that when the Cavs win (and I believe they will), they can't start in with the "Lebron = GOAT" nonsense.
    Nobody has to set-up GS as some incredible force. Their own play this season does that.

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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Leon Smith
    Wrong.

    Jason Terry doesn't play for the Warriors.
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    Jason Terry dominated bron in the finals and made him his beta bitch because he could. Bron has played on stacked teams his entire life save for his first 2 seasons.

    Ish idiots thinking that a 6/6 GOAT can't outperform a 2/5 fraud and overcome the Warriors in a watered down non hand checking league. Stay mad and hold the L boyz!

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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by Indian guy
    Nobody has to set-up GS as some incredible force. Their own play this season does that.
    They looked ENTIRELY beatable this series until Allen went down. That's no accident. They are a pretty boy, jumpshooting team that can be beat by teams with good interior play and strong defense and tempo control. They are not an all-time level team regardless of whatever the metrics say.

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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
    They looked ENTIRELY beatable this series until Allen went down. That's no accident. They are a pretty boy, jumpshooting team that can be beat by teams with good interior play and strong defense and tempo control. They are not an all-time level team regardless of whatever the metrics say.
    "Pretty boy jump shooting" team that ranks first in the league in defense and top 10 in points in paint.

    It's a defense first team. Only people who say otherwise haven't watched them enough.

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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
    Memphis wins this series with Tony Allen healthy, yet all of a sudden GS is a juggernaut. Right.
    LOL

    Memphis got wrecked in all 4 losses. They're not winning this series regardless. That's just ridiculous.

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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavincent
    "Pretty boy jump shooting" team that ranks first in the league in defense and top 10 in points in paint.

    It's a defense first team. Only people who say otherwise haven't watched them enough.
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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
    They looked ENTIRELY beatable this series until Allen went down.
    Oh come on. GS is not the first #1 seed to struggle a little before figuring things out. There's a reason why all 4 of their wins in the series were blowouts. When they were on their game, Memphis had no hope. And a wing defender with 0 offensive game wasn't going to change that. Steve Kerr figured him out anyway by Game 4 by basically not guarding him. Memphis couldn't score and couldn't afford to keep him on the court.

    They are a pretty boy, jumpshooting team
    Pretty boy teams aren't #1 on defense.

    that can be beat by teams with good interior play and strong defense and tempo control.
    How does Cleveland have that?

    They are not an all-time level team regardless of whatever the metrics say.
    Well, of course, a championship is what cements a team's all-time status and there are still 2 more rounds to go. We can only judge 'em by what they've accomplished so far, and few teams in NBA history have dominated their competition as much as they have to this point of the season. And it's not like they aren't absolutely loaded or anything. Why undermine a team with that much talent to push an agenda? League MVP. Best 2-way SG. Multiple DPOY caliber big men. Best depth. Excellent coaching staff. Of course they're obliterating their competition. It's not like we are talking about the 2015 Atlanta Hawks here.

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    Default Re: Jordan couldn't lift this Cavs team over the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
    Lebron stans already setting up GS as some incredible force so that when the Cavs win (and I believe they will), they can start in with the "Lebron = GOAT" nonsense. Memphis wins this series with Tony Allen healthy, yet all of a sudden GS is a juggernaut. Right.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
    They looked ENTIRELY beatable this series until Allen went down. That's no accident. They are a pretty boy, jumpshooting team that can be beat by teams with good interior play and strong defense and tempo control. They are not an all-time level team regardless of whatever the metrics say.
    MJ fasns are so insecure lmao...

    "we dont care if this is an ATG Team... no, ITS NOT!!"

    Love is out anyway. GSW should whoop that ass, even the things you listed you need to beat them, Cavs have no interior forces lol.

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