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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el
    the team composition dragged him down the last 2 years. If he had any shooters his efficiency and assists would probably be increased noticeably. Look at how often he gets to the line already! That's a fuction of teams stacking the paint because there's no threat of shooters...and he's still dishing out 8 a game.

    The only thing Irving has on wall is shooting. Wall is more athletic, a better defender, better at getting to the rim, and has better court vision

    Irving is much easier to build around. He really has no major holes in his game. One of the best shooters in the league, underrated slasher, better ball-handler, and a much better clutch player. Irving single-handedly willed Cleveland to wins in some 4th quarters (Boston, Denver, Sacramento). And he was working with less talent than Wall. His best pick n roll parter (Varejao) got injured early in the season. And he was splitting time with ramon Sessions for awhile. And he still won ROY. Thats impressive

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by SilkkTheShocker
    Irving is much easier to build around. He really has no major holes in his game. One of the best shooters in the league, underrated slasher, better ball-handler, and a much better clutch player. Irving single-handedly willed Cleveland to wins in some 4th quarters (Boston, Denver, Sacramento). And he was working with less talent than Wall. His best pick n roll parter (Varejao) got injured early in the season. And he was splitting time with ramon Sessions for awhile. And he still won ROY. Thats impressive
    he was splitting time because his bad D kept him off the floor

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by PleezeBelieve
    This thread has received 1000+ views in two hours, on a Monday, in the offseason, two days before the 4th of July.

    I have posters creating their names in respect to me. Everyone nicknames themselves 'PB'.

    What I say matters.

    Deal with it.
    800 of the views is you refreshing the page constantly. Loser: You.

    Dealt with.

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el
    he was splitting time because his bad D kept him off the floor

    He played bad d, for sure. But you think Sessions is going to rot on the bench when Cleveland is trying to move him at the deadline? There is a reason they got a 1st round pick for him at the deadline. He could be starting for another team, Cleveland couldn't just give him 15 mpg no matter what.

    With Wall, all you ever hear is about his athelticism or potential. When the guy still isn't a great finisher, can't shoot, and has questionable bball IQ. I have my doubts he can ever be the best player on a high-seeded playoff team. And he still played with more talent than Irving did in Cleveland. Alonzo Gee, Ryan Hollins, Anthony Parker, etc. Not that easy to generate points with that offense. Wall has no excuses now though. Nene, Beal, Ariza, etc. Thats plenty to get in the playoffs in the east.

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el
    he was splitting time because his bad D kept him off the floor
    This is false.

    He was splitting time because Byron Scott wanted him to be acclimated to the NBA game. Please understand that Irving just came off a freshman year where he played 11 games where he has rest in-between those games. He didn't want Irving to get a major injury or get gassed by suddenly starting and playing 36 a game in a compressed scheduled...I think it's safe to say we saw a ton of players fall with injury because of that.

    If you watch and track his minutes he ends up getting more minutes in the second half of the season because he Scott felt Irving was getting better conditioned for the NBA game. Before the all-star game I believe Irving was averaging about 25 minutes per game..

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Meticode
    This is false.

    He was splitting time because Byron Scott wanted him to be acclimated to the NBA game. Please understand that Irving just came off a freshman year where he played 11 games where he has rest in-between those games. He didn't want Irving to get a major injury or get gassed by suddenly starting and playing 36 a game in a compressed scheduled...I think it's safe to say we saw a ton of players fall with injury because of that.

    If you watch and track his minutes he ends up getting more minutes in the second half of the season because he Scott felt Irving was getting better conditioned for the NBA game. Before the all-star game I believe Irving was averaging about 25 minutes per game..
    im not sure i agree with this

    i remember hearing coach scott say that irving would have to earn his minutes, meaning the reason he wasnt gettin more minutes wasnt, as you say, to get acclimated, or avoiding injury, etc., it was because his play didnt merit any more minutes than he was getting

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    DJ Augustin and Gerald Henderson says hi

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Did you say that Kyrie Irving was better than Dwill?

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Exlax
    Did you say that Kyrie Irving was better than Dwill?
    What he says doesn't even matter. Trade them and he'll switch positions instantly.

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
    What he says doesn't even matter. Trade them and he'll switch positions instantly.
    He's a die hard Cavs fan like that?

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Exlax
    He's a die hard Cavs fan like that?
    PB's sole aim in life is to garner attention

    thats all that matters to him

    if he has to look like to a fool to do it, he doesnt seem to mind

    dude is downright pathetic

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by chips93
    PB's sole aim in life is to garner attention

    thats all that matters to him

    if he has to look like to a fool to do it, he doesnt seem to mind

    dude is downright pathetic

    Ahhh ok. I stopped reading everything once i made it to that part though. I was like wtf this guy can't be serious.

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Someone put OP out of his misery..

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    Default Re: I bet on my LIFE, the Cavs have the best backcourt in the NBA

    Rondo/ AB gonna break out

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