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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
    When Billups is ur best player, u shouldn't be destroying a team with 4 hall of famers.
    Right back at you.
    when was billups ever anybodies best player?

    i think you made a booboo

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    History doesn't care about the strength of your conference (or even the league). The are always good teams and good players in the league so a ring is a ring. You can only beat the people you play.

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavincent
    Lets talk about Kobe's competition from 08 to 10, shall we?

    08

    Nuggets 50-32
    Jazz 54-28
    Spurs 56-26
    Celtics 66-16

    09

    Jazz 48-34
    Rockets 53-29
    Nuggets 54-28
    Magic 59-23

    10

    Thunder 50-32
    Jazz 53-29
    Suns 54-28
    Celtics 50-32

    So in that 3 year span, 11 out of the 12 teams Kobe faced won 50+ games. Result? 2 rings. The 08 Celtics were the only team he lost to, and they were stacked like pancakes and damn near won 70 games during the regular season. They probably would have beaten the Bulls 72 win mark if KG didn't miss 11 games.

    Hard to think of a player who had to face better competition through a 3 year span.

    Kobe was ridiculous at his best. Not a better sight in basketball than Kobe when he was hot.

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
    I'm trying to figure out a difference between the 2?

    How can it be the worst head to head against the West, but only the 2nd worst EC winning % ever?
    The winning percentage is the cumulative winning % of the conference as a whole. The Head to Head is East vs West. Link to the info (Only had through Dec. for this latest season, info for that can be found elsewhere):

    http://www.sports-reference.com/blog...nce-disparity/

    The late 90s (including the Bulls Historic 72 win season) had some of the best Eastern conference winning %s and H2H records vs the West post merger. Post Decision East has the worst. These are facts.

    But let's hear more about 'mythology'

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by mehyaM24
    when was billups ever anybodies best player?

    i think you made a booboo
    I should have guessed. You weren't born yet in 2004.

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by davehos
    Early 90s ... Detroit .. Bad Boys

    Mid 90s ... Knicks ... multiple 55+ win seasons.

    Late 90s ... Pacers ... multiple 50+ win seasons.


    OP too busy shitting his diapers in the 90s to know anything about basketball.
    Spot on.

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
    I should have guessed. You weren't born yet in 2004.
    rasheed wallace and ben wallace >

    having a good series doesnt make you a "better player"

    try harder brah

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Lets talk about Kobe's competition from 08 to 10, shall we?

    08

    Nuggets 50-32
    Jazz 54-28
    Spurs 56-26
    Celtics 66-16

    09

    Jazz 48-34
    Rockets 53-29
    Nuggets 54-28
    Magic 59-23

    10

    Thunder 50-32
    Jazz 53-29
    Suns 54-28
    Celtics 50-32

    So in that 3 year span, 11 out of the 12 teams Kobe faced won 50+ games. Result? 2 rings. The 08 Celtics were the only team he lost to, and they were stacked like pancakes and damn near won 70 games during the regular season. They probably would have beaten the Bulls 72 win mark if KG didn't miss 11 games.

    Hard to think of a player who had to face better competition through a 3 year span. Unlike Bron, Kobe didn't get any bye rounds, such as the Bucks, Bobcats being led by a crippled Al Jefferson, or the JV Bulls squad

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by mehyaM24
    rasheed wallace and ben wallace >

    having a good series doesnt make you a "better player"

    try harder brah
    Seriously?
    Really?
    I don't even...

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by davehos
    Early 90s ... Detroit .. Bad Boys
    weak,old,depleted,injured,unmotivated

    Mid 90s ... Knicks ... multiple 55+ win seasons.
    zero offensive structure.midget backcourt,lack of swingmen. weak

    Late 90s ... Pacers ... multiple 50+ win seasons.
    reggie miller was their best player. nuff said

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    90's Pistons, Knicks, Pacers, Cavs, Magic, Heat. Jordan also didn't collude with and join two of the best players in his conference like LeCakeWalk

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
    Seriously?
    Really?
    I don't even...
    stop talking basketball,dilbert. hoops just aint your thing

    try the OTC or something

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by mehyaM24
    weak,old,depleted,injured,unmotivated



    zero offensive structure.midget backcourt,lack of swingmen. weak



    reggie miller was their best player. nuff said
    2004 pistons. Billups was their best player. Enough said.

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by mehyaM24
    stop talking basketball,dilbert. hoops just aint your thing

    try the OTC or something
    I actually do work the OTC market
    When you're old enough, you just might begin to understand the ins and outs of it.

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    Default Re: How come no one ever discredits MJs rings when he played in the East ?

    Quote Originally Posted by mehyaM24
    weak,old,depleted,injured,unmotivated



    zero offensive structure.midget backcourt,lack of swingmen. weak



    reggie miller was their best player. nuff said
    '

    There is no reason with people who ignore the numbers. You don't win 55+ games in MULTIPLE seasons with scrubs.

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