Tim Duncan is greater than Shaq, and here are the numbers to PROVE it

[poeticism707]

Here are Tim Duncan and Shaq's career numbers and accomplishments

Lets take it to the scorecard as it stands right NOW:

titles: Shaq 4, Duncan 4
finals mvps: Shaq 3, duncan 3
season mvps: Shaq 1, Duncan 2
1st team all nba: Shaq 7, Duncan 9
1st team all defense: Shaq 0, Duncan 7 (Shaq only has 3 2nd team all defense!)
Shaq career: 25.9ppg, 11.6 rpg, 2.8apg, 2.8bpg
Duncan Career: 21.8 ppg, 11.9rpg, 3.2apg, 2.4bpg

Now lets discuss the obvious. Shaq has been in the league 5 more years than Duncan, both are even with 4 titles, both even in finals mvps, Duncan with one more season mvp at 2-1. Here is where it gets shocking: Shaq has been in the league over 14+ years, but only 7 first team all nba elections? That a mere 50%! Also, Shaq has never, not even once been voted first team all defense- with only 3, count it 3 total 2ND TEAM all defense selections! Wow! He's a bigger defensive liability than Steve Nash! Even with all this "dominant" scoring, career wise he leads Duncan by only four points in career average! It is obvious that all you who swear by Shaq's dominance have been utterly duped!

Anyone please look at these numbers and prove Shaq is better than Duncan! According to their career numbers and stats, Duncan is already ahead of Shaq, and its not even close! One more title and finals mvp will simply be icing on the cake.

[West-Side]

Yeah, and Garnett is better then Olajuwon.

[Wuxia]

give it up dude.

[L.Kizzle]

Does Duncan = Shaq yet?

28 Pages, 415 replies woth of Shaq/Duncan debate.

[poeticism707]

Yeah, and Garnett is better then Olajuwon.

Tim Duncan is greater than Shaq and Olajuwaon, unless KG wins 3 titles soon, he isn't in the Equation.

[TheHonestTruth]

Duncan >>>>> Shaq but Olajuwon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KG.

[D]

Here are Tim Duncan and Shaq's career numbers and accomplishments

Lets take it to the scorecard as it stands right NOW:

titles: Shaq 4, Duncan 3
finals mvps: Shaq 3, duncan 3
season mvps: Shaq 1, Duncan 2
1st team all nba: Shaq 7, Duncan 9
1st team all defense: Shaq 0, Duncan 7 (Shaq only has 3 2nd team all defense!)
Shaq career: 25.9ppg, 11.6 rpg, 2.8apg, 2.8bpg
Duncan Career: 21.8 ppg, 11.9rpg, 3.2apg, 2.4bpg

Now lets discuss the obvious. Shaq has been in the league 5 more years than Duncan, but only has one more title, both even in finals mvps, Duncan with one more season mvp at 2-1. Here is where it gets shocking: Shaq has been in the league over 14+ years, but only 7 first team all nba elections? That a mere 50%! Also, Shaq has never, not even once been voted first team all defense- with only 3, count it 3 total 2ND TEAM all defense selections! Wow! He's a bigger defensive liability than Steve Nash! Even with all this "dominant" scoring, career wise he leads Duncan by only four points in career average! It is obvious that all you who swear by Shaq's dominance have been utterly duped!

Anyone please look at these numbers and prove Shaq is better than Duncan! According to their career numbers and stats, Duncan is already ahead of Shaq, and its not even close! One more title and finals mvp will simply be icing on the cake.

[FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Horrible argument. Too many holes in it[/FONT]

[SsKSpurs21]

i love this guy! preach on brother, preach on.

[poeticism707]

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[poeticism707]

i love this guy! preach on brother, preach on.

[ronron15]

shaq was once the most dominant player on the planet....

[TDMVPDPOY]

i love this guy! preach on brother, preach on.

td label man ftw

[L.Kizzle]

There is a thread on the same page discussing the very same thing.

Does Duncan = Shaq yet?

[poeticism707]

shaq was once the most dominant player on the planet....

LOOK at the numbers BEFORE you quote ESPN one liners! By the way, Tim Duncan leads Shaq in mvps 2-1, even in finals mvps. Where's the dominance?

[D]

Like?

[FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]Like? Your just not very intelligent. 1st of all Don would like to say Duncan is close to Shaq, but not above him. And he definately isn't above Shaq because of the reasons you mentioned.[/FONT]

Here is where it gets shocking: Shaq has been in the league over 14+ years, but only 7 first team all nba elections? That a mere 50%! Also, Shaq has never, not even once been voted first team all defense- with only 3, count it 3 total 2ND TEAM all defense selections! Wow!

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Your main argument is how Duncan has all these awards over Shaq. But you are forgetting that on All-NBA Selections and All-Defensive Selections, 2 Fowards are chosen, and 1 Center is chosen. So it is easier for Duncan to get into All-NBA 1st than Shaq. How many All-Defensive 1st Selections would Duncan have if he was a C with Dikembe, Ben Wallace, Hakeem, Alonzo being the guys usually at the top. Tell Don how many All-Defensive 1st Selections Duncan would have if he was a C and had to go against DPOYs. Or if he would have as many All-NBA 1st if there was 1 Center spot and the Centers were loaded in the 90s with Robinson, Hakeem, and so on. Bottom line Duncan has 2 spots for an award spot, and Shaq has one.

Your award argument is just stupid. Don doesn't like stupid arguments[/FONT]