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GOAT
What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
MJ was known as one of the greatest midrange jump shooters ever. Hell, the man basically shot .500 from the field his career (only reason he was below 50% was because of his two seasons with the Wizards when he was well past his prime).
Ason Kidd? Yeah, that made sense, as Kidd's jumper wasn't reliable. Irk? That, too, since Dirk wasn't know as a great defender.
But this Ordan nonsense? I know you fggts can't be that stupid with this shit.
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NBA All-star
Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
it's not to insult his jumper. It's just a variation of Ilt and other nicknames. Just a coincidence his name starts with a J.
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Local High School Star
Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
Because shooting isnt just mid range
If Lebron had a J in his name people would do the same shit
Luckily he has an L so people often call him Ebron
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The triggerer
Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
Originally Posted by KingPush
Luckily he has an L so people often call him Ebron
no it's Lebron cause he's known for losing
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
Originally Posted by Dray n Klay
Jordan's midrange was good but never elite, overall it was slightly worse than LeBrons.
NBA.com's stats show that Jordan's midrange was far better than Curry's
[COLOR="Navy"]JORDAN 1997[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 49.3%, 1202 fga
[COLOR="DarkRed"]CURRY[/COLOR][COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkRed"]2015[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 41.1%, 285 fga
[COLOR="DarkRed"]CURRY[/COLOR][COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkRed"]2016[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 42.5%, 200 fga
Not even close - Jordan shoots far better on 6 times the volume
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I usually hit open layups
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
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[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR][color="navy"]NBA.COM'S STATS ON
"MIDRANGE" EFFICIENCY
[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR](all shots inside 3-pt line but outside paint)[/COLOR]
[COLOR="White"]........................[/COLOR]Midrange Efficiency .
[COLOR="darkRed"]M Jordan. 1997:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 48.9%.. 588/1202[/COLOR]
[COLOR="darkRed"]M Jordan. 1998:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 43.2%.. 476/1101[/COLOR]
Curry.... 2016:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 42.5%... 85/200
Lebron.. 2016:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 37.1%... 96/259
D Wade.. 2016:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 36.4%.. 143/393
Derozan. 2016:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 37.5%.. 183/488
Butler. 2016:[COLOR="White"].......[/COLOR] 35.9%.. 113/315
Westbrook 2015:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 36.9%.. 164/445
Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler ALL have poor midrange and 3-point efficiency, but they're still top scorers because today's spacing and hands-off defense allows good athletes easier access to the rim.
MJ's athleticism would benefit the same way, except he had goat midrange efficiency, even better than Curry's, which gives him a massive advantage over non-shooters Lebron, Westbrick and company.. MJ had Lebron/Westbrook's athleticism, with better midrange shooting than Steph Curry.. That's the goat
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WIND DEFENDER
Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
Ebron Ames?
No D or J in that
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College star
Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
Originally Posted by Dray n Klay
Maybe because he was a horrible 3 point shooter
And his midrange was good but never elite, overall it was slightly worse than LeBrons.
So shitty 3 pointer + decent midrange = Ordan
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...jamesle01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...jordami01.html
Broken down, 40 year old Jordan is almost 10 percentage points higher than Bran on the 10-16 range.
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Form is temporary
Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
People who think that he's a poor 3-point shooter, although he shot 0.02% worse than Kobe, who many consider a great 3-point shooter.
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Impartial NBA analyst
Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
Everyone knows Jordan was a good shooter, they do that to troll 3ball
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Form is temporary
Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
Michael Ordan
LeBron Ames
Ilt Chamberlain
Ames Haren
Any others?
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Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
"Ordan" is truly a baffling way to insult Jordan. I guess everyone today is so high on three pointers, that the ability to be an all time great mid-range shooter is looked down upon.
The thing is Jordan clearly didn't focus on threes that much, yet he still had some really big games/shots with them. He hit multiple game winning/tying three pointers in his career, in both the regular season and playoffs. He obviously had game 1 with 6 threes in the first half in the 92 Finals, but he shot well and a good number of threes throughout that series, not just game 1. He hit the go ahead three against Utah in 97 with less than a minute that ended up winning the game. And he also shot quite well from three point range in his first four championships, between .385 and .403. Didn't shoot well in 97 and 98 overall, but he was 34 and 35, when players' really legs start to go. Bottom line is that while no one thought of Jordan as a premier three point shooter in the 80's and 90's, everyone knew he could be dangerous from there and hit the big shots from three when needed.
As others have said, Jordan had really quite good form from three point range. If he had really focused on them like today's players, he would have been significantly better. But a preoccupation with three pointers also may have detracted from his other scoring strengths, and that's why he didn't worry about threes that much.
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College superstar
Re: What's up with this "Ordan" bullshit?
Originally Posted by Dray n Klay
And his midrange was good but never elite, overall it was slightly worse than LeBrons.
This level of sheer ignorance should be ban-able.
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