Discuss the Pistons struggles and to what extent Allen Iverson is to blame

[LakersDynasty]

Youre right he's BELOW average.

Odom is far and away better than any player on the Knicks, I hope you were joking.

[StroShow4]

Youre right he's BELOW average.

what the hell is up with all these people thinking odom is overrated?? have you seen him play this year?? he has amazing skills for a guy who is 6'11, plays great team ball, and just seems to always make good decisions.

[AI Nuggets3]

in Denver A.I....

-is shooting less (and shooting at a much higher percentage)
-is getting more assists
-is scoring less (which his critics wanted him to do)

thats all im going to say...just watch.

[mswank]

They've been winning without Kobe, does that make him below average? :

hilarity.

[StroShow4]

theyve been winning without him

if you watched the lakers with and without odom you would know they are a far better team with him.

[Devientz]

theyve been winning without him

Does this mean you think theyre gonna be worse when he gets back?

[lovethetriangle]

They've been winning without Kobe, does that make him below average? :

I thought you were better than this man.

Lets wait till melo comes back then we talk. Iverson can still thrive.

[Se]

odom isnt average

Odom isn't playing.

And JR Smith=Iggy

Iggy has so many flaws in his game, that no one notices. He is hesitant to shot, often taking bad shots. He doesn't have a very good outside shot and his defense is way overrated.

[MTing]

I was saying this when the trade went down but I thought just wait till Melo comes back.
AI hopefully will get more assists, less turnovers, and takes less shots. In other words be a distributor and the second option, leave most of the scoring to Melo

[mswank]

Does this mean you think theyre gonna be worse when he gets back?

where do you pinheads get your logic from?

they're going to be better because odom is better than any other dope they roll out there that's not named kobe.

the point of the post re the lakers was originally about kobe being able to drag a crappy team along to some wins while iverson hasn't.


you dudes like 14?

[j Fresh]

[QUOTE=Se

[knickscity]

Odom is far and away better than any player on the Knicks, I hope you were joking.

That isn't the point. Don't use the Knicks to justify Odom. That's pathetic. Odom has been a disappointment his whole career for all the talent he has. He was playing very well before he got hurt. But back to the thread, A.I. is what Melo needs to make it to the top, not that I'm saying that they will get there, but A.I. can make him better as long as he remembers this is Melo's team.

[knickscity]

have you seen him play this year?? he has amazing skills for a guy who is 6'11, plays great team ball, and just seems to always make good decisions.

That's why he is overrated. You just said yourself. How long has he been in the league?

[XxNeXuSxX]

I thought you were better than this man.

Lets wait till melo comes back then we talk. Iverson can still thrive.

It was a response to Odom=Average because Lakers have wins. Don't see why I can't combat it with another useless stat like Lakers 3-0 without Kobe.

[LakersDynasty]

That isn't the point. Don't use the Knicks to justify Odom. That's pathetic. Odom has been a disappointment his whole career for all the talent he has. He was playing very well before he got hurt.

I agree that he's never tapped his full potential but you're contradicting yourself here. How he is below average if he's played very well this year? Would you say he's not even top 50 currently in the league? Or is anyone who isn't a top 20 player below average to you?