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Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
Originally Posted by BigTicket
Do you have any proof that these specific individuals commited terrorism and rape, or are you arguing that Denmark should just convict them of these crimes without any evidence ?
What if there is evidence and Denmark still tries to rehabilitate them with zero punishment. Will you support this policy?
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A humble prophet
Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
Originally Posted by kNIOKAS
What? Pointing out the contradiction is not making any sense? Well in a way, I guess, but do you know what are you talking about?
You just calling 731 million people names. What is your argument that they deserve such names? Cowardly does not translate to none of what you mentioned, it means a different thing. Look it up.
What makes you think you know why "this isn't being tackled"? Just calling names again.
Ok because Nietzche said something along those lines and with an intepretation you can spin it in a way so you can call people names. Great.
What was the lesson?
That's a bit like... Values of ISIS, not of Denmark.
I don't know why you bother having discussions about these subjects in a language you so clearly are not even close to fluent in. Learn the language first, then try and have precise discussions with people about topics that aren't simple.
Of course cowardly means a different thing (who said it didn't). I just said leading insulated, protected, secure and spoiled lives inevitably breeds cowardice. Children are so protected that they tend to grow into timorous and hedonistic adults - products of safety and docility.
Nietzsche's view on this matter has been vindicated by the progression of time. We live in a culture where people live in fear of offending others, which is what he predicted. It shows he understood human nature and how it reacts to shifts in civilisation incredibly well, but i wouldn't expect you to understand this, as it's something you don't understand at all.
No, it is the values of Denmark, not ISIS. In Europe we generally put those who engage in murder, massacre, rape and public executions in prison for a long time, not provide them with counselling services with the intention to reintegrate. If we were following the values of ISIS, every returning foreign fighter would be beheaded on film with a blunt knife, and then they all be paraded on CNN 24/7 news channel.
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Cavs for life
Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
Originally Posted by Nick Young
What if there is evidence and Denmark still tries to rehabilitate them with zero punishment. Will you support this policy?
Of course not. If there is evidence of crimes, then they should be convicted for those crimes.
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The Fam
Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
****ing Dannish retards
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There will be plaster
Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
Originally Posted by Dresta
I don't know why you bother having discussions about these subjects in a language you so clearly are not even close to fluent in. Learn the language first, then try and have precise discussions with people about topics that aren't simple.
Why you keep simplifying them then? Making it somehow a trait of character (of a whole country)??
Of course cowardly means a different thing (who said it didn't). I just said leading insulated, protected, secure and spoiled lives inevitably breeds cowardice. Children are so protected that they tend to grow into timorous and hedonistic adults - products of safety and docility.
Cowardice is running away from the challenge. Now it was you who projected what a country like Denmark should do, what they shouldn't do, and then prescribed some trait to them to explain why they didn't act they way you wanted. That's incredibly inefficient and subjective. That means nothing, you're just being loud.
Nietzsche's view on this matter has been vindicated by the progression of time. We live in a culture where people live in fear of offending others, which is what he predicted. It shows he understood human nature and how it reacts to shifts in civilisation incredibly well, but i wouldn't expect you to understand this, as it's something you don't understand at all.
You don't know if people fear of offending others. You just explained the things you do not understand using your own mechanisms to make sense of the world.
The term of civilisation is also arbitrary and relative, unless you think otherwise.
No, it is the values of Denmark, not ISIS. In Europe we generally put those who engage in murder, massacre, rape and public executions in prison for a long time, not provide them with counselling services with the intention to reintegrate. If we were following the values of ISIS, every returning foreign fighter would be beheaded on film with a blunt knife, and then they all be paraded on CNN 24/7 news channel.
In Europe there's due process for sentencing somebody. Not that a raging lunatic would understand that...
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C's Fan since Dee
Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
Originally Posted by kNIOKAS
It seems that Al Qaeda is just some sort of name for whatever is bad. You think that works in your advantage?
Mind telling what is really going on there?
Christians are in fear basically every time they leave their homes or openly practice their religion in fear of ending up on a YouTube video getting their heads sawed off. Are you seriously asking me this?
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A humble prophet
Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
Originally Posted by kNIOKAS
Why you keep simplifying them then? Making it somehow a trait of character (of a whole country)??
Cowardice is running away from the challenge. Now it was you who projected what a country like Denmark should do, what they shouldn't do, and then prescribed some trait to them to explain why they didn't act they way you wanted. That's incredibly inefficient and subjective. That means nothing, you're just being loud.
You don't know if people fear of offending others. You just explained the things you do not understand using your own mechanisms to make sense of the world.
The term of civilisation is also arbitrary and relative, unless you think otherwise.
In Europe there's due process for sentencing somebody. Not that a raging lunatic would understand that...
Yes i do. I suggest you read Nick Cohen's book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Can't_Read_this_Book
Which details - quite extensively - the many incidents where publications have been pulled, books refused publication, art exhibits closed, and various other things, all due to this fear of causing 'offense' - to Muslims in particular. Christ, during the Danish cartoon affair not a single media outlet decided to show the cartoons that were the actual news story because they were afraid. Even South Park was censored because of fear, albeit fear of reprisal (in the country of the 1st Amendment, no less, this has long been the case in UK: they even censored the episode with Diana for fear of offending people).
When you have an overseas army that desires your destruction exporting its combatants back to their home nations then there is legal recourse to dealing with them differently. Not that what they've done isn't already illegal as things stand.
The rest of your post is indecipherable garbage so i'll leave it at that.
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There will be plaster
Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
Originally Posted by Dresta
Yes i do. I suggest you read Nick Cohen's book: h ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Can't_Read_this_Book
Which details - quite extensively - the many incidents where publications have been pulled, books refused publication, art exhibits closed, and various other things, all due to this fear of causing 'offense' - to Muslims in particular. Christ, during the Danish cartoon affair not a single media outlet decided to show the cartoons that were the actual news story because they were afraid. Even South Park was censored because of fear, albeit fear of reprisal (in the country of the 1st Amendment, no less, this has long been the case in UK: they even censored the episode with Diana for fear of offending people).
How about people not wanting to offend anybody? Have ever thought of that? Or is it fear, because something-something-book.
When you have an overseas army that desires your destruction exporting its combatants back to their home nations then there is legal recourse to dealing with them differently. Not that what they've done isn't already illegal as things stand.
The rest of your post is indecipherable garbage so i'll leave it at that.
How about somebody thought they would like to join what they considered a good fight, went there, saw there's nothing of interest to them, came back? Just looking from an individual point of view.
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World's Finest
Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
Originally Posted by Nick Young
Ridiculous. What the hell is wrong with Europe?
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Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
Originally Posted by SCdac
"What is wrong with Europe?" ... good question.
Recently, students at a London University voted against commemorating the Holocaust, as being "anti-Zionist" does not allow them to commemorate
http://www.timesofisrael.com/london-...commemoration/
This is the same student body that recently refused to condemn ISIS, as they feared doing so would be Islamaphobic
Dear god.
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Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
WTF Denmark.
So these people can cut off others heads, rape any woman they please and kill defenseless children and they're simply allowed to waltz right back in like they've been on holiday.
Denmark have just condoned ISIS by doing this.
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Gambling expert
Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
Originally Posted by step_back
WTF Denmark.
So these people can cut off others heads, rape any woman they please and kill defenseless children and they're simply allowed to waltz right back in like they've been on holiday.
Denmark have just condoned ISIS by doing this.
srsly we should invade Denmark again, supporting terrorists
[COLOR="White"]evil laugh[/COLOR]
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NBA All-star
Re: Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria
fukking goverment... ....next time there is election the current gov. will be thrown out the door and the right people will take over, according to polls the current gov. is in the minority........and a party who hates those musilm fukks will get around 25 procent of the votes
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