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Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Originally Posted by Smook A.
I wouldn't say that he's the runaway MVP at this point even though I'm sometimes biased af about the Rockets and Harden. Curry is leading the race right now considering how well him and his team are playing. Harden is playing well, but the Rockets aren't winning as many games as the very top teams in the league like the Warriors, Hawks and Grizzlies. It'd be much closer if they were.
Curry's supporting cast is like a billion times better than Harden's. If we're gonna compare Curry and Harden in terms of value, then Harden definitely wins. Curry being at the top of the MVP race REALLY benefits from him having a stacked team.
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Red Nation
Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Originally Posted by Dee O Gee
Curry's supporting cast is like a billion times better than Harden's. If we're gonna compare Curry and Harden in terms of value, then Harden definitely wins. Curry being at the top of the MVP race REALLY benefits from him having a stacked team.
That's true. Hate to say it, but Harden may miss out on that MVP because the Rockets aren't winning as many game as the top TOP teams and that results from having a pretty weak supporting cast unfortunately.
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Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Who cares about seasons that occurred over a half decade ago?
LeBron fans are just upset that LeBron won't win the MVP this year (as it should be) so they're appealing to the past.
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Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Originally Posted by Smook A.
That's true. Hate to say it, but Harden may miss out on that MVP because the Rockets aren't winning as many game as the top TOP teams and that results from having a pretty weak supporting cast unfortunately.
Maybe.
However. Curry is a better shooter, better defender, as talented a ball-handler, and every bit as good a facilitator (though if you were to take Harden, I wouldn't fault you).
Additionally, he doesn't utterly shit the bed in the playoffs in pathetic fashion, though that diagnosis has less to do with the MVP race, and more to do with evaluating his effectiveness and value as a premier player -- if you can't rely on your best player at the most critical time of the year....
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I rule the local playground
Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
best player on a team that isn't stacked and will make the playoffs
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National High School Star
Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Originally Posted by Milbuck
Anyone who calls him "runaway" MVP over Curry is ****ing retarded. Especially considering a GOOD postseason run for him this year would be 1) getting out of the 1st round, and 2) shooting over 40%. Has any MVP ever had lower expectations?
Thisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, Harden is so overrated its actually disgusting.
Has done nothing in the playoffs and I'd bet the rockets dont even get to the 2nd round.
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NBA All-star
Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Originally Posted by dubeta
For a frame of reference, if LeBron had a Harden season, it would be his worst season since he was a 18 year old rookie
What if he's having a worse than Harden season?
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MVP
Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
Preach.
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King of LA
Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
the worst thing is hardens stats are mostly empty
has a stacked team and still can't get it done.
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GOAT
Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Doesn't King James Harden's team have a better record than Lebron's, in a stronger conference at that?
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dude, where's my shaq?
Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
James Harden is playing with Ariza and Josh Smith while LeBron played with Bosh and Wade + Kyrie and Irving.. You really don't think Harden's FG % would imrpove if he didn't have defenses keying in on him?
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Red Nation
Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Originally Posted by funnystuff
Thisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, Harden is so overrated its actually disgusting.
Has done nothing in the playoffs and I'd bet the rockets dont even get to the 2nd round.
How the hell is he overrated? Harden looks like a totally new guy since the 2014 season started. When we lost our main guys like Dwight, T-Jones, and Beverley for a significant amount of time, I thought our chances of making the playoffs were thrown out the window. Turns out we didn't even look worse.
Harden stepped up BIG TIME and it translated into wins. I was extremely impressed. He was averaging monster numbers. Got his teammates involved, played defense, and was showing great leadership. I think its amazing how the Rockets are still a top 5 team in the East with their 2nd best player being out for a long time. I honestly don't give a shit if you hate Harden. It's just that calling him disgustingly overrated is a bit too much. He's one of the best players in the NBA right now, like it or not.
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Good college starter
Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Lol @ the haters that keep bringing up Harden in the playoffs.
1. The MVP is not a playoff award
2. Quit judging him based on PAST seasons instead of this season when considering him for MVP.
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Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Originally Posted by Smook A.
That's true. Hate to say it, but Harden may miss out on that MVP because the Rockets aren't winning as many game as the top TOP teams and that results from having a pretty weak supporting cast unfortunately.
2009 Wade all over again with the Team holding him back.
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big time kobe stan
Re: James Harden is averaging 27.4pts 5.7 rbs 6.8 assists on 45% shooting..
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Lebron's first MVP = 28.4/7.6/7.2 with 1.6 steals per game on 59% TS
Harden 2015 = 27.4/5.7/6.8 with 2 steals per game on 61% TS
Harden carrying a worse supporting cast
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