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Old 08-11-2018, 08:30 PM   #1
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Default Weakest team To Beat Lebron in the Finals?

Terry's Mavs 2011

Geriatrich Spurs 2014

Virgin Warriors 2015
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Old 08-11-2018, 08:37 PM   #2
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Default Re: Weakest team To Beat Lebron in the Finals?

all of those teams were great.

The problem is with teams that Bron beat,
12 OKC who were basically 22 at the time, no wonder they got to the finals in a lockout season where older teams like spurs and lakers couldn't keep up with the schedule
13 Spurs that literally lost by accident
and 16 Warriors who's second best player was DQ'ed

His losses are well documented and accounted for, some are even understandable, but the questionable wins are what's more suspect
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Old 08-11-2018, 08:42 PM   #3
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Default Re: Weakest team To Beat Lebron in the Finals?

Probably the 2011 Mavs. Same 2011 Mavs that swept Kobe, despite him being defending B2B champ.
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Old 08-11-2018, 08:54 PM   #4
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Default Re: Weakest team To Beat Lebron in the Finals?

Lebron blew a 2-1 lead to a bunch of kids who had never been to an nba Finals.
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:42 PM   #5
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Default Re: Weakest team To Beat Lebron in the Finals?

Thats a tough question because of all the teams to choose from but I'm going 2007 Spurs. People go on and on about how stacked the 07 Spurs were compared to the Cavs but in reality it was just Prime Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili.

They should have lost to the Suns in the second round, and They were easily beaten the next year by Kobe's lakers in 5 games.
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:59 PM   #6
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Default Re: Weakest team To Beat Lebron in the Finals?

2015 Warriors.

They were obviously REALLY good, but they weren't on the level of the 16-18 Warriors.
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Old 08-12-2018, 04:06 AM   #7
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2016 Warriors
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Old 08-13-2018, 01:09 AM   #8
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Default Re: Weakest team To Beat Lebron in the Finals?

07 spurs 3 HOFers + HOF coach

11 mavs 2 HOFers

14 spurs 4 HOFers + HOF coach

15 gsw 3 or 4 HOFers + HOF coach

16 and 17 gsw 4 or 5 or 6 HOFers + HOF coach


answer is Mavs




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Old 08-13-2018, 01:21 AM   #9
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07 spurs 3 HOFers + HOF coach

11 mavs 2 HOFers

14 spurs 4 HOFers + HOF coach

15 gsw 3 or 4 HOFers + HOF coach

16 and 17 gsw 4 or 5 or 6 HOFers + HOF coach


The 2011 Heat and 2015 Cavs had 3 HOF's each, and were the most stacked teams ever:





Notice how lebron's teams underachieved mainly on OFFENSE - lebron-ball drastically underachieved the team's expected offensive BPM



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answer is Mavs

2011


This is true - and the Mavs were the 2nd worst-team ever to win a Finals (see the bottom part of this list):



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Old 08-13-2018, 01:39 AM   #10
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So according to what 3ball posted the 2015 Cavs are both the 3rd greatest team since 1980 AND the 3rd worst Finals team since 1985
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Old 08-13-2018, 02:10 AM   #11
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So according to what 3ball posted the 2015 Cavs are both the 3rd greatest team since 1980 AND the 3rd worst Finals team since 1985
No, you just didn't understand the charts

The 2015 Cavs were had the 3rd greatest team ON PAPER, as the chart states.. so it was a goat assemblage of talent

but that talent drastically underachieved their expectation and ended up being one of the worst-performing Finals teams ever, as the 2nd chart states

but we know a big part of them underachieving was the injuries.. but part of it was just lebron-ball, which drastically underachieved the offensive expectation, as it did in 2011 as well
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Old 08-13-2018, 03:27 AM   #12
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No, you just didn't understand the charts



Has any Lebron stan ever understood something other than basic boxscores?

That's why they are Lebron fans, right?
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Old 08-13-2018, 03:39 AM   #13
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take your pick


not technically the final.. but still




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Old 08-13-2018, 03:42 AM   #14
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Probably the 2011 Mavs. Same 2011 Mavs that swept Kobe, despite him being defending B2B champ.

That Mavs team was probably one of the greatest teams of all time. Nearly unbeatable. And easily the best team of the past 20 years.
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Old 08-13-2018, 03:49 AM   #15
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Thats a tough question because of all the teams to choose from but I'm going 2007 Spurs. People go on and on about how stacked the 07 Spurs were compared to the Cavs but in reality it was just Prime Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili.
Against:
  • * Drew Gooden
    * Boobie Gibson
    * Pavlovic
    * Ilgauskas
    * Varejao
    * Larry Hughes
    * 12329013 year old Eric Snow and Donyell Marshall
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