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    Default How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    Starting in 1985

    85 - Malone was better
    86 - Daugherty was the best despite a short career
    87 - Robinson the best
    88 - Mitch Richmond?
    89 - Idk but it wasn't Pervis Ellison
    90 - Gary Payton
    91 - Probably Larry Johnson
    92 - Shaq
    93 - Webber
    94 - Jason Kidd better
    95 - KG
    96 - Kobe
    97 - Timmmmmmm
    98 - Dirk
    99 - I prefer Manu over Brand
    00 - Redd made an All NBA team so he gets the nod
    01 - Pau
    02 - Yao still was the best
    03 - LeBron
    04 - Dwight
    05 - CP3
    06 - Aldridge
    07 - Durant
    08 - Westbrook
    09 - Curry
    10 - DMC
    11 - Kyrie
    12 - AD
    13 - Dipo for now
    14 - ???



    First is best about half the time

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    Default Re: How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by KyrieTheFuture
    Starting in 1985

    85 - Malone was better
    86 - Daugherty was the best despite a short career
    87 - Robinson the best
    88 - Mitch Richmond?
    89 - Idk but it wasn't Pervis Ellison
    90 - Gary Payton
    91 - Probably Larry Johnson
    92 - Shaq
    93 - Webber
    94 - Jason Kidd better
    95 - KG
    96 - Kobe
    97 - Timmmmmmm
    98 - Dirk
    99 - I prefer Manu over Brand
    00 - Redd made an All NBA team so he gets the nod
    01 - Pau
    02 - Yao still was the best
    03 - LeBron
    04 - Dwight
    05 - CP3
    06 - Aldridge
    07 - Durant
    08 - Westbrook
    09 - Curry
    10 - DMC
    11 - Kyrie
    12 - AD
    13 - Dipo for now
    14 - ???



    First is best about half the time
    So #1 vs ALL other picks is 50:50? Sounds like it is REALLY important.

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    Blake and Wall were hardly bad number picks, though. Both great players. And yeah Malone had a better career than Ewing, but Ewing is ~top 30-40 all time. So it's not like the pick wasn't great. Also why'd you only go back to 85?

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    Default Re: How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by KyrieTheFuture
    Starting in 1985

    85 - Malone was better
    86 - Daugherty was the best despite a short career
    87 - Robinson the best
    88 - Mitch Richmond?
    89 - Idk but it wasn't Pervis Ellison
    90 - Gary Payton
    91 - Probably Larry Johnson
    92 - Shaq
    93 - Webber
    94 - Jason Kidd better
    95 - KG
    96 - Kobe
    97 - Timmmmmmm
    98 - Dirk
    99 - I prefer Manu over Brand
    00 - Redd made an All NBA team so he gets the nod
    01 - Pau
    02 - Yao still was the best
    03 - LeBron
    04 - Dwight
    05 - CP3
    06 - Aldridge
    07 - Durant
    08 - Westbrook
    09 - Curry
    10 - DMC
    11 - Kyrie
    12 - AD
    13 - Dipo for now
    14 - ???



    First is best about half the time
    Wall>DMC

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    Default Re: How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    I think I researched this and found that circa 65-70% of #1 picks make at least one all-star team. It's usually a guaranteed good player

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    Default Re: How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    Blake and Wall were hardly bad number picks, though. Both great players. And yeah Malone had a better career than Ewing, but Ewing is ~top 30-40 all time. So it's not like the pick wasn't great. Also why'd you only go back to 85?
    Just cause of the lottery complaints that always come up, tanking and such. People are freaking about X team getting Y pick but ultimately it's not all about where you pick. Sometimes when there are more choices you make a worse decision

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    Default Re: How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    I'd take Blake over Curry in terms of career as well as Paul George over Boogie.

    Why are you basing the most recent drafts by this year's season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RightTwoCensor
    I'd take Blake over Curry in terms of career as well as Paul George over Boogie.

    Why are you basing the most recent drafts by this year's season?
    I'm not, this isn't supposed to be objective it's my opinion. I think PG is trash so I won't agree there.

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    I think for the most part you will get an impactful player. Granted there have been huge busts as #1 pick. Olowokandi and Bennett come to mind, but I'd feel a lot safer having the #1 pick and the pressure of picking the right guy as opposed to hoping the #1 pick not panning out.

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    Default Re: How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by HurricaneKid
    So #1 vs ALL other picks is 50:50? Sounds like it is REALLY important.
    but then the 2nd pick, only 40% turn out great.

    the 3rd pick... only about 35%

    4th pick... maybe 30%

    5th pick, lower chances

    you get the idea...

    but wait...

    i'm only pulling these numbers out of my ass.

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    Default Re: How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    Best pick is sometimes relative because teams have different needs but, from 1960 til 2010, the years you could say the best/greater player was the 1st pick, imo were:

    1960 - Big O (or West)
    1961 - Bellamy
    1968 - Hayes
    1969 - Kareem
    1973 - Doug Collins (you had McGinnis in the ABA though)
    1974 - Walton
    1975 - Skywalker
    1979 - Magic
    1986 - Daugherty (Bias died so we'll never know about that)
    1987 - D-Rob
    1991 - either LJ or Mutombo
    1992 - Shaq
    1993 - probably Webber yea (Penny also got injured)
    1997 - Timmy
    1999 (hard to pick here though)
    2000 - you could probably say Kenyon yea
    2002 - Ming (or Amare)
    2003 - LeBron
    2004 - Dwight
    2010 (Wall or Cousins, PG too)

    Guess you could probably say 1971 too but it's hard to pick. In 1982, Worthy probably had the most success but Nique was the better player. 2009 gimme Steph. 2008 is yet to be determined, let's say...

    So around 20 years out of 50...
    Last edited by SHAQisGOAT; 04-01-2015 at 02:55 PM.

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    Default Re: How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    technically wade was the best pick in 2004 because he actually brought his team a championship


    guys who ditch and ring chase shouldnt be considered the best pick for that specific team


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    Default Re: How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    Wade vs Dwight career-wise is an interesting topic, I'd personally go with Wade though. Three rings with one as FMVP is more important than Dwight's three DPOY's imo.

    I think a good part of Dwight's success comes with the fact that the center position was incredibly weak during his prime.

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    Default Re: How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by hawksdogsbraves
    Wade vs Dwight career-wise is an interesting topic, I'd personally go with Wade though. Three rings with one as FMVP is more important than Dwight's three DPOY's imo.

    I think a good part of Dwight's success comes with the fact that the center position was incredibly weak during his prime.
    They weren't picked the same year. Wade was 2003 and Dwight was 2004. He was picked just before Okafor.

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    Default Re: How many years has the 1st pick, been the best pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by SHAQisGOAT
    Best pick is sometimes relative because teams have different needs but, from 1960 til 2010, the years you could say the best/greater player was the 1st pick, imo were:

    1960 - Big O (or West)
    1961 - Bellamy
    1968 - Hayes
    1969 - Kareem
    1973 - Doug Collins (you had McGinnis in the ABA though)
    1974 - Walton
    1975 - Skywalker
    1979 - Magic
    1986 - Daugherty (Bias died so we'll never know about that)
    1987 - D-Rob
    1991 - either LJ or Mutombo
    1992 - Shaq
    1993 - probably Webber yea (Penny also got injured)
    1997 - Timmy
    1999 (hard to pick here though)
    2000 - you could probably say Kenyon yea
    2002 - Ming (or Amare)
    2003 - LeBron
    2004 - Dwight
    2010 (Wall or Cousins, PG too)

    Guess you could probably say 1971 too but it's hard to pick. In 1982, Worthy probably had the most success but Nique was the better player. 2009 gimme Steph. 2008 is yet to be determined, let's say...

    So around 20 years out of 50...
    1971? How? What case does Austin Carr have over Artis Gilmore or Spencer Haywood?

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