Who would you rather have on your team in the Finals--2006 Wade or 2012 Bron?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Even if you ignore ALL the FT's, he scored 22 PPG.

That's a top five Finals performance all time to you? STFU already. It's an overrated Finals by Miami fans, and Wade stans.

I'm a fan of the guy, he reps my city. What he did was clutch, and impressive. It was great. People use his PPG and say it's at the best or near it. When it's obvious his production was padded by suspect officiating.

But for anyone who saw it live, the league at the time was in embarrassment mode @ the touch, ticky tack, soft fouls he was getting. It happened all season for perimeter guys, and exploded to ridiculous levels in the Finals that made watching the product difficult.

[aj1987]

That's a top five Finals performance all time to you? STFU already. It's an overrated Finals by Miami fans, and Wade stans.

I'm a fan of the guy, he reps my city. What he did was clutch, and impressive. It was great. People use his PPG and say it's at the best or near it. When it's obvious his production was padded by suspect officiating.

But for anyone who saw it live, the league at the time was in embarrassment mode @ the touch, ticky tack, soft fouls he was getting. It happened all season for perimeter guys, and exploded to ridiculous levels in the Finals that made watching the product difficult.

Yo, ****tard. I said he put up 22 PPG even if you ignore ALL the FT's. I didn't say 22 PPG is a top 5 GOAT performance. What he ACTUALLY did is a top 5 GOAT Finals performance.

As I said, he probably got 1-2 touch fouls per game MAX. Stop pretending like half of the fouls were touch fouls.

[Stringer Bell]

2012 Lebron.

Not a knock on Wade, but Bron was just the better player.

[kennethgriffin]

depends. are we getting 2006 refs or 2012 refs?

[Jacks3]

The other thing that makes Wade's performance overrated is that the the Heat offense actually really sucked in that series.

He put up big numbers yet the Heat ORTG was a terrible 101.0 (league average was at 106.2)

The real reason the Heat won is because they took a fantastic Mavs offense and completely shut them down. They held them to a historically low 99.9 ORTG!

Wade had little to with that.

On the other hand, the Heat offense in the 2012 Finals was historically incredible at 115.1 . Oh, and LeBron's team/help defense in that series was off the charts.

So yeah, Wade may have had the better raw numbers, but it's clear that LBJ was the higher impact player. Dominating while anchoring a GOAT level offense is a lot more impressive than putting up big numbers on a horrific offense.

[Doranku]

2006 Wade 'cuz I know he ain't bolting 2 years later.

[Dresta]

The other thing that makes Wade's performance overrated is that the the Heat offense actually really sucked in that series.

He put up big numbers yet the Heat ORTG was a terrible 101.0 (league average was at 106.2)

The real reason the Heat won is because they took a fantastic Mavs offense and completely shut them down. They held them to a historically low 99.9 ORTG!

Wade had little to with that.

On the other hand, the Heat offense in the 2012 Finals was historically incredible at 115.1 . Oh, and LeBron's team/help defense in that series was off the charts.

So yeah, Wade may have had the better raw numbers, but it's clear that LBJ was the higher impact player. Dominating while anchoring a GOAT level offense is a lot more impressive than putting up big numbers on a horrific offense.

That's because Wade's team sucked you stupid prat. Bron had Wade on his team on 12, and lots of guys making 3s. Wade had Shaq shooting 20% from the line and Antoine 'high efficiency' Walker - Jason Williams too.

What a bullshit argument, seriously.

[Wade's Rings]

The other thing that makes Wade's performance overrated is that the the Heat offense actually really sucked in that series.

He put up big numbers yet the Heat ORTG was a terrible 101.0 (league average was at 106.2)

The real reason the Heat won is because they took a fantastic Mavs offense and completely shut them down. They held them to a historically low 99.9 ORTG!

Wade had little to with that.

On the other hand, the Heat offense in the 2012 Finals was historically incredible at 115.1 . Oh, and LeBron's team/help defense in that series was off the charts.

So yeah, Wade may have had the better raw numbers, but it's clear that LBJ was the higher impact player. Dominating while anchoring a GOAT level offense is a lot more impressive than putting up big numbers on a horrific offense.

You still didn't answer my questions about Kobe

hat's a top five Finals performance all time to you? STFU already. It's an overrated Finals by Miami fans, and Wade stans.

I'm a fan of the guy, he reps my city. What he did was clutch, and impressive. It was great. People use his PPG and say it's at the best or near it. When it's obvious his production was padded by suspect officiating.

But for anyone who saw it live, the league at the time was in embarrassment mode @ the touch, ticky tack, soft fouls he was getting. It happened all season for perimeter guys, and exploded to ridiculous levels in the Finals that made watching the product difficult.

Most of those "phantom" fouls have been proven to be real fouls. In Game 3 he shot 3 Free Throws in the 4th Quarter. 1 while driving and the other from an Intentional Foul. Game 4 was a blowout. Game 6 he had 6 Free Throws come from Dallas Intentionally Fouling. Like i said before most of those fouls have been shown from Different Angles and proven to be real fouls.

The 2006 Finals is rigged because of Free Throws but the 2012 Finals didn't have any suspect Officiating.

[Budadiiii]

Wade.

You can trust his killer instinct and urgency in the finals. He just gets after it.

LeBron got lucky in 2012 against a young, inexperienced team. Had they played the Spurs I don't think LeBron would've ever gotten a ring.

[aj1987]

The other thing that makes Wade's performance overrated is that the the Heat offense actually really sucked in that series.

He put up big numbers yet the Heat ORTG was a terrible 101.0 (league average was at 106.2)

The real reason the Heat won is because they took a fantastic Mavs offense and completely shut them down. They held them to a historically low 99.9 ORTG!

Wade had little to with that.

On the other hand, the Heat offense in the 2012 Finals was historically incredible at 115.1 . Oh, and LeBron's team/help defense in that series was off the charts.

So yeah, Wade may have had the better raw numbers, but it's clear that LBJ was the higher impact player. Dominating while anchoring a GOAT level offense is a lot more impressive than putting up big numbers on a horrific offense.

Are you serious or just trolling?

[Milbuck]

We just gonna ignore that Wade was putting up 23/6/5 next to Lebron in the 2012 finals, while Wade was spreading Dallas wide open basically by himself?

[Jacks3]

Are you serious or just trolling?

No trolling at all. The Wade stans say he was "unstoppable" but the point is make the offense better. It's not to put up pretty stats. If you told the Mavs before that series that they would hold the Heat offense to a horrific 101.0 ORTG, they would have been ecstatic. It's clear that the Heat defense was the real MVP in that series.

LeBron went up against a better defense and anchored a GOAT level offense while playing terrific defense.

It's pretty obvious which feat is more impressive.

[Smoke117]

The other thing that makes Wade's performance overrated is that the the Heat offense actually really sucked in that series.

He put up big numbers yet the Heat ORTG was a terrible 101.0 (league average was at 106.2)

The real reason the Heat won is because they took a fantastic Mavs offense and completely shut them down. They held them to a historically low 99.9 ORTG!

Wade had little to with that.

On the other hand, the Heat offense in the 2012 Finals was historically incredible at 115.1 . Oh, and LeBron's team/help defense in that series was off the charts.

So yeah, Wade may have had the better raw numbers, but it's clear that LBJ was the higher impact player. Dominating while anchoring a GOAT level offense is a lot more impressive than putting up big numbers on a horrific offense.

...Wade was the most consistent defensive player on the perimeter for the Heat you stupid bastard.

[Jacks3]

...Wade was the most consistent defensive player on the perimeter for the Heat you stupid bastard.

His defense in that series was nothing special you ****.

Mourning and Haslem were two biggest impact players defensively by far.

Wade's defense was not even in the same universe as LeBron's

Go back and watch the series, you ****ing moron.

[aj1987]

No trolling at all. The Wade stans say he was "unstoppable" but the point is make the offense better. It's not to put up pretty stats. If you told the Mavs before that series that they would hold the Heat offense to a horrific 101.0 ORTG, they would have been ecstatic. It's clear that the Heat defense was the real MVP in that series.

LeBron went up against a better defense and anchored a GOAT level offense while playing terrific defense.

It's pretty obvious which feat is more impressive.

You do realize that the '12 Heat's 2nd best scorer was Wade at 23 PPG, right? '06? Walker with 14 PPG on 45% TS. Wade was Miami's offense that series. Wade's defensive covers scored on 48% and 47% TS. Lets not act like Wade wasn't cooking defensively as well.

Give Wade another 23 PPG scorer who can pass and defend on the '06 Heat, they would've won in 5 max.