Juan Carlos Navarro crazy game

[chains5000]

What archaic math did you use to come up with that number?

lol
you're right Huge mistake

[Rooster]

Spain with Navaro but without Gasol flopped badly in 2005 and 2010.Spain with Gasol was the best european team by far.No comparison.Gasol was definitely the difference maker in spanish NT.

Right on. Pau is the be all end all of Spanish team. Without him dominating those hapless unathletic centers like that stiff Bourossis, Spain would be like a shooting team.

[Rooster]

True, but he's more of a scorer type though. A lot of his offense comes off the dribble, or off of his floater.

He was the same spot up shooter in NBA.

Don't let that minor league scene fool you with those slow and unathletic defenders

[LikeABosh]

Any decent NBA guard would make that little scrub their bitch

[Rooster]

he's overrated in my opinion. A lot of it wont translate to the NBA gam.

If he's barely throwing up floaters and fade to the left jumpers, he's going to get killed.

Also, notice there were no defensive highlights....he would get lit up on defense.

Same sentiment here. He got overrated because of a couple of good games against USA. Scrubs like Patty Mills also torched USA and so did scrubs like Saras and Arroyo. Average NBA player at best. Good player off the bench or someone you can use for spacing. But defensively, he's too unathletic to keep with the Gazelles. Memphis used him appropriately. La Bamba fits better in an inferior league where he does not have to use his energy guarding the best scorers in the world without flopping.

[Segatti]

Would be a decent role player on NBA in his prime. Ok, maybe a decent bench warmer in his prime.

[gabepizza]

gabepizza has never seen a game outside of the NBA or Team USA games. He obviously has no freaking clue in the slightest how good Navarro was in his career.

I've seen Navarro a lot. He's inconsistant. This past summer he had a great first half against team USA but was shut down in the 2nd half. In 2008 he had a great gold medal game against the US but sucked the rest of the tournament.

In 2006 when Pau went down in the semi-finals Navarro, with some help, led Spain to gold but if Navarro has to be "the man" for Spain for a whole tournament Spain fails miserable like in 2005 and 2010.

Navarro is streaking. Like many streaking players there are times when he seems unstoppable but then there are times when he disappears. He played a full season in the NBA, 82 games, started 30. And while he had a good season, voted all-rookie second team, he wasn't even the top of his class while players like Al Thornton, Jeff Green and Luis Scola were first team.

People mentioned his game against the Lakers. That is a good example. In Navarro's prime his team traveled to LA and scored 34 points on 12-27 shooting in a 4 point loss.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281018013

But the very next day Barca played the lowly Clippers (this was when the Clippers were one of the worst teams in the league) and scored 11 points on 2-10 shooting in a 5 point loss.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281019138

So these two games are good example of Navarro. In one game he goes against the NBA's best, has a great game and almost beats them but the next day goes against the NBA's worst (and these Clippers were the worst of the worst, not only were they bad but as you can see from the box score they didn't even play their top players) and has a horrible game and can't beat NBA talent even at the lowest level.

[Rooster]

I've seen Navarro a lot. He's inconsistant. This past summer he had a great first half against team USA but was shut down in the 2nd half. In 2008 he had a great gold medal game against the US but sucked the rest of the tournament.

In 2006 when Pau went down in the semi-finals Navarro, with some help, led Spain to gold but if Navarro has to be "the man" for Spain for a whole tournament Spain fails miserable like in 2005 and 2010.

Navarro is streaking. Like many streaking players there are times when he seems unstoppable but then there are times when he disappears. He played a full season in the NBA, 82 games, started 30. And while he had a good season, voted all-rookie second team, he wasn't even the top of his class while players like Al Thornton, Jeff Green and Luis Scola were first team.

People mentioned his game against the Lakers. That is a good example. In Navarro's prime his team traveled to LA and scored 34 points on 12-27 shooting in a 4 point loss.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281018013

But the very next day Barca played the lowly Clippers (this was when the Clippers were one of the worst teams in the league) and scored 11 points on 2-10 shooting in a 5 point loss.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281019138

So these two games are good example of Navarro. In one game he goes against the NBA's best, has a great game and almost beats them but the next day goes against the NBA's worst (and these Clippers were the worst of the worst, not only were they bad but as you can see from the box score they didn't even play their top players) and has a horrible game and can't beat NBA talent even at the lowest level.

Elden Campbell syndrome

[Nash]

Yet he can easily tear up Team USA, the Lakers, etc. every time he plays them.

You do know he has played a full season in the NBA and only averaged 10.9 ppg? So its not like you can come up with stupid BS about how he would own the NBA.

[alenleomessi]

Best way to describe JCN is - he cant guard but he also cant be guarded

last year we had probably the best team defense in the tournament we shut down every team, our bigs ( especially antic ) did great job on the gasol brothers but there was just nothing we could do against navarro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_5ai_cNpYM

when he gets hot, a lineup of payton-jordan-pippen-duncan-hakeem cant do shit

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Best way to describe JCN is - he cant guard but he also cant be guarded

last year we had probably the best team defense in the tournament we shut down every team, our bigs ( especially antic ) did great job on the gasol brothers but there was just nothing we could do against navarro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_5ai_cNpYM

when he gets hot, a lineup of payton-jordan-pippen-duncan-hakeem cant do shit

[Rooster]

Best way to describe JCN is - he cant guard but he also cant be guarded

last year we had probably the best team defense in the tournament we shut down every team, our bigs ( especially antic ) did great job on the gasol brothers but there was just nothing we could do against navarro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_5ai_cNpYM

when he gets hot, a lineup of payton-jordan-pippen-duncan-hakeem cant do shit

Navarro lighting up those hapless bums from Macedonians and get compare to Jordan.

When a dinosaur like Kobe decided to shut him down, La Bamba hardly did anything on the 2nd half.

And you try to tell me those prime version on Glove, Pippen and Jordan and can not do shit

[Euroleague]

Spain with Navaro but without Gasol flopped badly in 2005 and 2010.Spain with Gasol was the best european team by far.No comparison.Gasol was definitely the difference maker in spanish NT.

Navarro is better than Gasol. Gasol never in his life had the ability to single handed beat teams. Navarro could do it any time he got hot.

Gaosl relies on an entire offense and team being designed to get him the ball where he needs it. Otherwise, he does nothing.

Navarro can just take the ball and get his own offense, or he can create for others, and run pick and roll.

It's really not even a contest. You are confusing most accomplished with best. Pau is more accomplished, not better.

Navarro is definitely the best Spanish player ever, even over Epi. Anyone saying otherwise has absolutely zero basketball knowledge.

[Euroleague]

I've seen Navarro a lot. He's inconsistant. This past summer he had a great first half against team USA but was shut down in the 2nd half. In 2008 he had a great gold medal game against the US but sucked the rest of the tournament.

In 2006 when Pau went down in the semi-finals Navarro, with some help, led Spain to gold but if Navarro has to be "the man" for Spain for a whole tournament Spain fails miserable like in 2005 and 2010.

Navarro is streaking. Like many streaking players there are times when he seems unstoppable but then there are times when he disappears. He played a full season in the NBA, 82 games, started 30. And while he had a good season, voted all-rookie second team, he wasn't even the top of his class while players like Al Thornton, Jeff Green and Luis Scola were first team.

People mentioned his game against the Lakers. That is a good example. In Navarro's prime his team traveled to LA and scored 34 points on 12-27 shooting in a 4 point loss.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281018013

But the very next day Barca played the lowly Clippers (this was when the Clippers were one of the worst teams in the league) and scored 11 points on 2-10 shooting in a 5 point loss.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=281019138

So these two games are good example of Navarro. In one game he goes against the NBA's best, has a great game and almost beats them but the next day goes against the NBA's worst (and these Clippers were the worst of the worst, not only were they bad but as you can see from the box score they didn't even play their top players) and has a horrible game and can't beat NBA talent even at the lowest level.

You have never in your life seen a non NBA or Team USA basketball game. You probably have only seen a handful of non Knicks games.

[Rooster]

Navarro is better than Gasol. Gasol never in his life had the ability to single handed beat teams. Navarro could do it any time he got hot.

Gaosl relies on an entire offense and team being designed to get him the ball where he needs it. Otherwise, he does nothing.

Navarro can just take the ball and get his own offense, or he can create for others, and run pick and roll.

It's really not even a contest. You are confusing most accomplished with best. Pau is more accomplished, not better.

Navarro is definitely the best Spanish player ever, even over Epi.

Yet Navarro led team can't get a medal without Pau

Maybe in a weak like Euroleague, Navarro can do all that.

But in a big league

He is a mainly a spot up shooter