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Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Griffey, Griffey, Griffey. god I hope you aren't like this in real life. Would be such a waste of space.
No Griffin, an aging Kobe would not suddenly resurrect the "best in the league" text with a Finals win over Bron in your hypothetical flawed world. What type of nonsense logic is that? Did any reasonable human being consider Dirk a better player than Lebron in 2011? How about in 2008, was Pierce suddenly the best player in the world after the Celtics eliminated the Lakers?
No. But because your Kobe print comforter hasn't been keeping you as warm as usual at night, you want to develop some farfetched concept that helps you sleep past midnight in mommy's house?
Like, grow up dude. You wear your age, or mental limitations, far too well around here. At least act like you've experienced some sort of adult-like progression in your thought processes. Kobe isn't even the best player on his team when all things are even - a healthy Dwight is. Now, Kobe might be the better scorer even still at his age, and if he found himself in a championship-clinching game, that scoring prowess would undoubtedly be rewarded with another FMVP for his collection. But, at this point of his career, it would take a nearly perfect...and, EFFICIENT....year from Kobe for him to have the impact a healthy Dwight would have. Both season, and off-season. And even then I still doubt he'll be a better player than Lebron.
In a hypothetical Finals match-up, it could be, albeit doubtful, possible that Kobe has a better series than Lebron. But in terms of his place in impact and production at this juncture of his career? Kobe will never again be the better player when comparing to Lebron.
All-Time? Yes. Current time? NO.
Last edited by BlackVVaves; 09-12-2012 at 10:57 PM.
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Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Current Kobe isn't close to current LeBron so meh. Dwight is the best on the Lakers anyways.
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Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Originally Posted by BlackVVaves
Griffey, Griffey, Griffey. god I hope you aren't like this in real life. Would be such a waste of space.
No Griffin, an aging Kobe would not suddenly resurrect the "best in the league" text with a Finals win over Bron in your hypothetical flawed world. What type of nonsense logic is that? Did any reasonable human being consider Dirk a better player than Lebron in 2011? How about in 2008, was Pierce suddenly the best player in the world after the Celtice eliminated the Lakers?
No. But because your Kobe print comforter hasn't been keeping you as warm as usual at night, you want to develop some farfetched concept that helps you sleep past midnight in mommy's house?
Like, grow up dude. You wear your age, or mental limitations, far too well around here. At least act like you've experienced some sort of adult-like progression in your thought processes. Kobe isn't even the best player on his team when all things are even - a healthy Dwight is. Now, Kobe might be the better scorer even still at his age, and if he found himself in a championship-clinching game, that scoring prowess would undoubtedly be rewarded with another FMVP for his collection. But, at this point of his career, it would take a nearly perfect...and, EFFICIENT....year from Kobe for him to have the impact a healthy Dwight would have. Both season, and off-season. And even then I still doubt he'll be a better player than Lebron.
In a hypothetical Finals match-up, it could be, albeit doubtful, possible that Kobe has a better series than Lebron. But in terms of his place in impact and production at this juncture of his career? Kobe will never again be the better player when comparing to Lebron.
All-Time? Yes. Current time? NO.
Griff logic:
LeBron averages 40-10-10 on 60% in finals.
Kobe averages 18-3-3 on 30% in finals.
Lakers beat Heat in 7 games.
"Gawdbe>LeBron "
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Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
If Lakers end up winning the championship Dwight will most likely be F-MVP.
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Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
so you'l say it?
Hell no, I'm not a Laker fan.
Only Laker fans are retards.
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sahelanthropus
Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
griff - if Kobe outplays LeBron while they are guarding each other, then yes
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Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Oh ISH. So if Kobe wins finals MVP he won't be the best player on his team? According to ISH logic.
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Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Originally Posted by RRR3
Griff logic:
LeBron averages 40-10-10 on 60% in finals.
Kobe averages 18-3-3 on 30% in finals.
Lakers beat Heat in 7 games.
"Gawdbe>LeBron "
na... my logic is
lebron averages 27/7/7 on 50% on mostly drives
kobe averages 28/6/5 on 46% with allot of mid range shooting
lakers beat heat
kobe wins finals mvp
gawdbe>lebron in the publics eye
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sahelanthropus
Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Originally Posted by longtime lurker
Oh ISH. So if Kobe wins finals MVP he won't be the best player on his team? According to ISH logic.
08 Pierce, 07 Parker, 04 Billups, 89 Dumars, 88 Worthy, 81 Maxwell, weren't, and a few others are arguable (not talking about Kobe here though)
if they guard each other and while doing so one outperforms the other and his team wins the series, then yes it can be said
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Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Originally Posted by RRR3
Cedric Maxwell best player on the 1981 Celtics
According to longtime lurker logic.
FMVP are the end all and be all according to ISH
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Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Originally Posted by fpliii
08 Pierce, 07 Parker, 04 Billups, 89 Dumars, 88 Worthy, 81 Maxwell, weren't, and a few others are arguable (not talking about Kobe here though)
if they guard each other and while doing so one outperforms the other and his team wins the series, then yes it can be said
We're not talking about outperforming each other. We're talking about the best player on the winning team. Dwyane Wade could win finals MVP and according to ISH logic he'd be the best player in the league
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Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Originally Posted by Stern
If Lakers end up winning the championship Dwight will most likely be F-MVP.
regardless of the effectiveness either of kobe or howard have at their current age. we could argue all day
forget about rankings or worth
forget about anything anyone thinks or says and ask yourself this question
"do i -so and so- believe deap down in my heart that kobe bryant wont take enough shots to win finals mvp." he could shoot 40% and if they somehow found a way to win. kobe would still be at 27-30ppg in the finals. you know it.. i know it. and howard knows it
i might be wrong. maybe kobe will be too old. but that wont stop him from winning finals mvp lol
he'l win it or go down with the ship
"i eat first" - Kobe Bryant
he'l retire before becoming #2 again. why do you think hes retiring in 2-3 years? he knows itel be impossible to convince people that hes worthy of taking 20+ shots by the age of 37
not even he could convince himself of that
but for now... he can get away with it. and as long as he can. hes gonna do it
mark my god damn words. kobes taking home finals mvp if LA wins a title next year. i'd bet every person on this message board 100$ each of it happening
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Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Originally Posted by longtime lurker
Oh ISH. So if Kobe wins finals MVP he won't be the best player on his team? According to ISH logic.
2008 - Pierce was the best player on the Celtics?
2007 - Parker was the best player on the Spurs?
Last edited by BlackVVaves; 09-12-2012 at 11:58 PM.
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sahelanthropus
Re: If Lebron loses to Kobe in the finals. will people say Kobe is the best again
Originally Posted by longtime lurker
We're not talking about outperforming each other. We're talking about the best player on the winning team. Dwyane Wade could win finals MVP and according to ISH logic he'd be the best player in the league
well last season (10-11) he would've been considered the best player on the Heat had he won, since he and LeBron played about evenly in that year's playoffs; this season that just finished, no; if he bounces back from injury, he has a shot
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